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@omar_dddg The koran is compiled the way it is b/c if one were to read the Suras in chronological order of "revelation" all the contradictions surface. Ibn ‘Ata’iqi identifies 231 abrogated verses, and al-Farsi, 248. E.g., Sura 12:111 is abrogated by Sura 3:7 - and that is central to islam.

@KOConsequence Only 8 verses and all were about gradual legislation not core creed, and none are contradictory. Nothing to do with style.

This is one of the most unusual sentences in any religious text. In my opinion, the most unusual in any book. It makes a logical appeal: if it was from other than a divine source, their would have been a lot of inconsistency within the Quran. The better translation is: much inconsistency. Not inconsistencies. The root word here is khlf- it means change, not contradictions. This is remarkable when you consider that the Quran was revealed over 23 years, in organic response to live events. It addresses theology, laws, household affairs, trade, divorce, marriage etc… Yet there’s little difference tonal drift, or style change. All throughout, it’s very distinguishably Quranic. If you read any author who has written extensively, over long periods of time, Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Marx, Virginia Woolf etc.. you’ll find that their style evolves, it changes, early Shakespeare is very different to late Shakespeare and so on. Scholars call it register consistency and idiolect stability. Across human authors, especially under duress, these tend to fracture. Dostoevsky wrote very differently before and after his mock execution and Siberian exile. Tolstoy's late work is almost a repudiation of his early work. The psychological pressure shows. Yet, besides the Meccan and Medinian shift, which was intentional and purposeful, there is almost no tonal drift. Over 23 years, of which more than 15 were years of stress, persecution, defending against military attacks, the Prophet, peace be upon him, losing his first wife, his children, the period of the fatra, the sieges, etc.. yet, the style is consistent. A human would sway and change, develop with the time, etc.. find better styles. The theology is also very stable from the beginning to the end: One God, judgement day, heaven and hell, human nature, human is redeemable, God is forgiving. It’s also incredibly unusual as a statement, because whoever made it, was aware of human psychology of authorship. That humans drift in authorship over a long time, which isn’t a very easy assessment to make in the desert, with so few books. The argument is structurally interesting because it's self-referential and falsifiable in principle, it invites scrutiny rather than demanding blind acceptance. That's unusual for any text, religious or otherwise. The verse also doesn't say "no inconsistency" or even "little inconsistency." It says "katheeran", much or many. The threshold being set is deliberately calibrated. So the argument is actually more modest and therefore more defensible than critics often engage with. It's claiming the absence of the level of inconsistency you would naturally expect from a human source operating under those conditions over that duration. This matters because it immunises the argument against weak counterexamples. When a critic points to the Meccan/Medinan shift, the text has already pre-empted that by not claiming impossible perfection. The bar is set honestly. Which is itself another unusual feature of the argument, it doesn't overclaim. Most apologetic arguments across religions tend to assert too much, which makes them brittle. This one is almost forensically careful about what it is and isn't saying. والله أعلم

@explorer_czw @jeffreytucker @SteveDeaceShow Correct. The vax made it worse - through evolutionary pressure, the vax created the variants that then went on to infect and infect over and over again. Until Omicron. Where was omicron hiding, given its infectivity+lineage? In a lab, that is where.

Jeffrey Tucker (@jeffreytucker), President of Brownstone Institute, and Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) discuss why COVID almost felt like it had been written as a movie script. They also talk about why the vaccine was probably never medically necessary — since the population already had natural immunity — and why it likely made the situation even worse. This nicely connects to other further observation that the real purpose of the vaccine was probably very different from what was publicly presented.

@TexasAntifa25 @3tas4me @1MikeFairclough So you admit your protective vax does not work? Got it. I'll avoid the toxic lipid nanoparticles and (1) DNA contamination and (2) endotoxins from "Process 2" which if you know anything about biotech, the process IS the product and the Process 2 product released was never tested.

@3tas4me @1MikeFairclough If you choose not to be vaccinated, you give up your right to use public transportation. No restaurants, no libraries, no movie theaters. Those places are for people that care about their community. Go live on an island and be pureblooded morons together.

Now that everyone is fully aware that the Covid vaccines are unsafe (able to cause serious injury, disability, and death) and ineffective (not able to prevent anyone from catching or spreading the virus), people are finally waking up to the criminality of Big Pharma. Covid had a 99.9% survival rate for most people. Children had an even higher rate. We knew this at the time of the rollout, and yet millions of children, babies, and young people have been injected with this poison.

@Archetypical20 @Pharaoh615 At its core, the dilemma proves the falsehood of islam by showing allah could not satisfy the koranic standards set for itself. Every "favorable" Islamic argument is defeated by koran. koran isn't a detailed explanation of all things, and "interpreting" highlights failure more.

@Pharaoh615 Not really, Muslims have given you plenty of answers but you lot are so high on your own supply thinking with relief that you don't actually have to prove Christianity is true with some sort of cheat code. You arent seeing your argument from how Muslims see itm

The reason Christian evangelists are so excited over this supposed Islamic Dilemma argument is because they want to unironically bank on the authority to the Quran to get Muslims to become Christians rather than the laborious task of actually proving Christianity is true.

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL If you think the above is insulting and/or a fair response to calling out the literal and historically recorded activities of Islam's prophet (e.g., al-zutt buttstuff,Aisha mounting at 9, semen on clothes) you do not understand islam AND can't distinguish fact from fantasy.

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Hahaha 🤣 if you like to cuss because you lost the argument, then we will slap back. Your mom's nobody to no one. And still you felt upset by this? Why? She didn't clean herself after having sex with your dad? Or do his dirty laundry for him? And for me first? Don't like it?

That the Quran confirms our scriptures: - It confirms the scriptures WITH the Jews and Christians at Muhammad's time (S. 2:41 / 4:47) - It commands us to follow our scriptures and judge by them (S. 5:43-47, 5:66-68) - PARTIAL belief in these books is condemned, so it's WHOLESALE confirmation (S. 2:85) - It teaches that the standard of truth for Muhammad is the prior revelation (S. 10:94) - It teaches that NOBODY can change the words of Allah (S. 6:115) - The condemnation is that we twist these books VERBALLY, not textually (S. 3:78) So the Quran confirms the entirety of the text of our scriptures, then (unknowingly) contradicts them (example: Surah 9:30 VS John 10:36 on Christ being the Son of God) because Muhammad never read them and assumed he was in line with them because he believed he was a prophet.

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL And there it is. Wasn't being mean, but merely pointing out from your sources that your alinsanalkamil had a thing for semen and little girls, so as a follower you likely do as well. Enjoy your time in the burning fire: Sura 19:71-72 No one has paid the penalty for YOUR sins.

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Like your mom was cleaning the panties I soiled her in after we did Islamic marriage. She's my fourth wife LOL 😂. Divorced her to your dad afterwards.

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL No. I'm saying Aisha was fond of scraping the semen off off of PedoMo's clothes.

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Hahaha you're saying that marriage is not allowed if your 90 year old Joseph mounts your 12 yr old Mary?

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Highlighted part is right - no explicit age given in the bible. Secondarily, it was a miraculous (see Sura 19) Virgin and non-biological conception / birth. Its not like God or Joseph mounted her like al-Zutt mounted your prophet, or how 54 year old pedoMo mounted a 9 YO Aisha

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL x.com/i/status/20398… Mary was 12

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL The false claims are literally in the Koran: Sura 16:36 and 3:84 - every nation got their messenger and no distinction between any of them - History disagrees with allah. Then contend with Sunan Abu Daud 4449 - PedoMo affirmed the Torah AND the one who revealed it. Islam=false

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Adding more false claims without any proof is an automatic win for Islaam. Alhamdu lillaah

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Just read the koran for once. Koran claims to be the Arabic form of revelation given to the earlier prophets. No where does the Koran say the earlier is corrupted. Quite the opposite. But there are material differences. So islam=false b/allah don't know wtitten history.

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL These are your claims, not mine. I don't have to prove your claims LOL. Are all Christians retarded? x.com/i/status/20508…

@IslaamWinsAgain @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL The proof burden is on Muslims! You have a much later in time book that disagrees in material ways with the Bible. Prove, with history, where and when this Synod of countries got together to change the Bible worldwide. An Uthman burning korans kind of event is needed.

@KOConsequence @SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL Prove it. Currently dismissed as Christian claptrap

@SSGRETURNS @IslaamWinsAgain @GodLogic_GL its not a belief issue here. The koran confirms something that did not exist, so islam = false. If it did exist, its lost now and the koran is false again. Or the koran mistakenly thought the bible Gospel was a book Gospel of Jesus, koran false again. Islam = false every way

@IslaamWinsAgain @KOConsequence @GodLogic_GL Yeah. The Quran says Allah ( SWT) sent down the injil to Jesus. But Christian’s claim the Quran confirms their Bible. this argument fails bcuz Christians dont believe that God sent down a book called the injil to Jesus. Instead, Christian’s believe 40 authors wrote the Bible

@SSGRETURNS @Rammstrom @GodLogic_GL PedoMo misunderstood history. He wrongly thought the Bible was literal word of god made text given to a man named Isa, a book like what he was trying to create. Not realizing there was no "book" but rather the word of god was made flesh and chronicled by apostles. Islam=false.

@KOConsequence @Rammstrom @GodLogic_GL Irrelevant. U already agreed that as Christian’s, you don’t believe Jesus was given a book named the injeel. So how is the Quran talking about your scripture as doglogic claimed ?

@SSGRETURNS @Rammstrom @GodLogic_GL its just another koranic error of many Koran confirms what the Christians had not just by reference to a fictional "injeel"- surah 3:3 references mabayna Yadahi. So the koran affirms what they had, even if it names it wrong . All while alinsanalkamil was banging a 9 year old.

@Rammstrom @KOConsequence @GodLogic_GL Me when I have no refutation ☝🏽

@SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL No. There is no historical evidence for any book "given" to jesus called the injeel. There are, however, the Gospels of Jesus according to, e.g. Mark, John and Luke, that go back to year 50, the Gospel vaticanus (year 300) that predates the koran and match what we have today

@KOConsequence @GodLogic_GL Again. You’re not answering the question. One last chance before I start ignoring u. Do Christian’s believe that God gave Jesus a book named the injeel????

@SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL No book of Jesus. Which means the koran is false because it requires a book that never existed. If the book of Jesus did exist and was lost, Jesus is the worst prophet ever and the lost text violates the edits of the koran that say Allah's words can be changed. Islam=false

@KOConsequence @GodLogic_GL Bro, What are u even yapping about ? Did you not understand my point ? As a Christian. Do you believe God gave jesus a book named the injeel? & If no, then the Quran doesnt confirm your scripture but the scripture which Allah sent down to isa.

@idrisnotes @GodLogic_GL "Corruption" argument doesn't arise for 300 years. Only after the muslims started translating did they see a dilemma problem. To cope, the earlier text HAD to be corrupted. Otherwise islam = satanic falsehoods. All cope Translation was the start of the death of islam.

@GodLogic_GL You just keep repeating the same debunked garbage. 🗑️ You need to explain the Islamic miracle that “Islamic dilema” has revealed. How did the author of the Quran in 7th century Arabia via an illiterate Arab know the Bible was corrupted??

@SSGRETURNS @GodLogic_GL That is a misunderstanding of mohammad (and thus muslims). It is the Gospel of Jesus, according to [ name]. The muslims look at the koran as the word of God made text and can't see Jesus is the Word of God made flesh.

@GodLogic_GL “ the Quran confirms our scriptures” I didn’t know that Christian’s believe God gave jesus a book named the injeel. I thought the disciples wrote the scriptures. 💀

@KontrRevolucija @GodLogic_GL @1lifegl If you have to face mecca to pray, and you are not allowed to have your back/ass toward mecca when you pray, that only makes sense in a flat earth paradigm. Similarly, fasting during the daylight makes no sense and is dangerous in extreme latitudes on a sphere.

A HUGE, overlooked deception by ‘Copyright’ Mohammed Hijab in his trainwreck debate w/ GodLogic: claiming the Qur'an led scholars to a globe Earth view. FALSE. The Qur'an-based consensus was of a FLAT-EARTH. The globe model came from astronomers, not the Qur'an. 🧵w/ receipts.