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Kairon // Flow Architect

Kairon // Flow Architect

@KaironFlow

Markets speak in liquidity. I build the grammar @tradehotstuff

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Kairon // Flow Architect
Kairon // Flow Architect@KaironFlow·
RFQ vs CLOB isn’t a design choice. It’s a tradeoff between latency, inventory risk and information leakage. There’s been a lot of discussion on CT around which model wins. Venues like @variational_io and @Ostium are leaning RFQ, while @HyperliquidX and @Lighter_xyz are doubling down on CLOBs. We’ve been going deep on this ourselves to figure out the right direction. To us it’s becoming clear hybrid fits both retail and institutions. Users choose between latency and spread. Makers can quote on book and respond to RFQs, improving capital efficiency and inventory control. Spot equities RFQ is already live on @tradehotstuff Perps next. Hybrid books win. Price on book, size via RFQ.
Tripathi@0xTripathi

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Hotstuff@tradehotstuff·
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Hotstuff@tradehotstuff·
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Kairon // Flow Architect
@wyattraich Yeah at the end users should get best of both models, we need a hybrid architecture where market makers can quote directly on book and respond to quotes with an expiry
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wyatt@wyattraich·
I do not understand the debate between orderbooks, RFQ and AMM trading models for broad RWA perps. Orderbooks are great for realtime liquidity and price discovery, this has been proven by weekend volumes on closed underlying markets. They are however very capital intensive to bootstrap when there is not natural demand in a market. RFQs are better suited for large block trades to optimize for slippage, especially on less liquid markets. BlackRock's trading desk for example routes legs of large orders across many different algos on orderbooks and direct to counterparties via RFQ to reduce price impact. In crypto, daily RFQ volume on majors is massive, and on alts they are often used to preserve privacy and limit price impact. AMMs and bonding curves are especially effective at bootstrapping liquidity as it is simple for anyone to market make (LP), but often comes at the expense of capital and market efficiency for both sides of a trade. There is no one size fits all for any asset class or market. As a result, we will be supporting a multitude of trading models to address user's needs for breadth, depth, and 24/7 trading. This is only possible by owning the underlying infrastructure and allocating liquidity on books to the highest demand pairs. Ideally an end retail user should end up with the best possible execution for the exposure vehicle and order of their choice.
Haseeb >|<@hosseeb

CLOBs are not going to take us to the RWA promised land. Today Hyperliquid owns the liquidity for a handful of RWA macro names. But outside the top 10 traded assets (which are ~90% of volume) liquidity falls off a cliff. When there's enough retail demand, order books can work. But "perps on everything" is a different problem, and TradFi solved it decades ago. The answer isn't every venue rebuilding its own order book. That's not what Robinhood does, it's not what Schwab does, and it's not what DeFi should be doing either. Building your own book for every asset means bootstrapping demand ticker by ticker, renting liquidity with subsidies, and ending up with thin markets that blow out 200x the moment news hits. It's like sucking the ocean of TradFi liquidity through a straw. Variational skips all of it via the RFQ model. RFQ is how institutions like Dragonfly actually trade. In RFQ, dealers quote just-in-time and hedge on the primary venue as orders come in. This lets Variational mainline TradFi liquidity directly and mirror it on-chain. Margin in smart contracts, settlement in stablecoins, liquidity aggregated from the people who already trade on the biggest underlying markets, like the CME and NYSE. It makes it permissionless to access the same depth and spreads the big boys get. With the cold start problem gone, new markets can ship at the speed of software. By next year I expect RWA perps to be the biggest contract class on-chain, bigger than BTC and ETH perps combined. That's how crypto truly becomes the market for everything. I believe the platform that wins that won't look like a traditional exchange. Proud to lead Variational's $50M Series A. Watch this space.

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@fiddybps1 What’s your take on it? Both have their pros and cons, feels like the right approach is a hybrid architecture that picks the best parts of both
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fiddy.dime - priv/acc 🦡
rfq vs ob takes are worse than bad talking heads are out in full force and wrong as usual
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Snatch | Dopamine125@0x_snatch·
On @tradehotstuff RWA Perp market overall: $2.914B in Open Interest, $4.964B in 24h Volume. Hotstuff's positioning within it is worth a look. Current volume metrics - Perp Volume 30d: $357.7M - Perp Volume 7d: $123.84M - Perp Volume 24h: $23.05M Mainnet went live Feb 6, 2026. Crossed $1B cumulative in 90 days. Top 25 DeFi platform, top 10 for RWA futures. The volume ranking stands out SILVER-PERP — $5.4M WTIOIL-PERP — $3.5M GOLD-PERP — $1.6M NVDA-PERP — $1.5M BRENTOIL-PERP — $765.9K Not BTC/ETH/SOL — silver and oil sit at #1 and #2. The volume profile reflects the direction: an RWA-native venue. In the recent RWA Trading Competition, RWA volume came in around 3x crypto volume. 24/7 spot equities Launched May 13. Tokenized equities and ETFs via xStocks — NVDA, GOOGL, AAPL, MSFT, AMZN, TSLA, META, S&P 500, Nasdaq-100, all 1:1 backed and tradable 24/7. Global equity market: $147T. Roughly 54x crypto, yet under 1% of on-chain traders touch tokenized equities today. 12-week(Epoch) points program live, TGE expected Q3~Q4 2026
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@kdotcrypto RFQ is obviously not better for price discovery but it helps to bootstrap liquidity and is a good UX for large orders, we need a hybrid architecture where we get best of both
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kdot | bulk@kdotcrypto·
First it was propAMMs (lol), now it is RFQs I wonder what model it will be next time the supremacy of a CLOB is challenged If you strive to be the venue for price discovery, there is no better structure than a CLOB
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flip@trevor_flipper·
lighter will be the first exchange to offer another execution option for their users. i wrote mid/late last years that the only way to satisfy all users needs/demands would be to have multiple execution options (clob, rfq, privacy) within one dex. next step will be privacy.
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Lighter@Lighter_xyz

Announcing Lighter RFQ in beta! Available on the web app on eligible RWA markets. Enter and exit larger positions in one click with lower slippage and better pricing.

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Kairon // Flow Architect
@zapperombie @0xTripathi RFQ bootstraps flow before native liquidity exists, and once volume shows up makers start quoting on the book and depth builds organically, so hybrid ends up being the layer that lets you sync across both and get the best execution.
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zapper@zapperombie·
@0xTripathi Ofc hybrid is the optimal solution.however, it depends where the liquidity resides and how performant each engine works in real time. The aim should be to offer faster synchronisation to liquidity and fulfill with good rates.
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@skre_0 True, external liquidity aggregation is needed as well. RFQ only systems also have tradeoffs more latency, and hedging costs usually end up in the spread. A hybrid model supporting both CLOBs and RFQs makes the most sense to me.
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0_skre@skre_0·
CLOBs are not going to take us to the RWA promised land. Watch this space.
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mks@mks_hot·
People frame RFQ vs CLOB like one replaces the other In reality they optimize for different constraints CLOBs maximize immediacy, visible depth and price discovery RFQs maximize inventory efficiency and large size execution through external venues The interesting part is when both compete inside the same execution engine Native makers still set the touch and dominate latency-sensitive flow RFQ liquidity compresses spreads on larger clips where external inventory access matters more That is where hybrid market structure starts becoming structurally better instead of just theoretically better We are starting it with spot equities, ETFs and deep spot liquidity, coming soon on RWA perp pairs next
Tripathi@0xTripathi

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mks@mks_hot·
Silver doing more vol than most crypto pairs wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card ngl Feels like people still don’t get how big the RWA trading market can get once this all moves on-chain Kinda explains why Hotstuff volume has been ripping lately 👀 Courtesy of @LorisTools
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Hotstuff
Hotstuff@tradehotstuff·
Introducing Hotstuff Invest 24/7 spot markets for Tokenized Stocks, ETFs & Crypto, powered by @xstocksFi Built on a Hybrid RFQ + order-book model with @bebop_dex as our 1st RFQ venue and more venues being integrated over time The $147T equity market is coming on-chain.
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Hotstuff
Hotstuff@tradehotstuff·
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