Kane Gregory

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Kane Gregory

Kane Gregory

@KaneGregory4

Desiderist, panpsychist, and vegan.

Katılım Ekim 2020
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Kane Gregory
Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@UroborosJose @xriskology I use singular they/them all the time. So much easier than saying "he or she"/"him or her" when you don't know a person's gender. And if singular they is fine in that case, why would it be wrong if the person doesn't fit the gender binary? I'm guessing that's your real issue here
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uroboros jose
uroboros jose@UroborosJose·
@xriskology dude you call yourself They? How are you right if you are a singular person 😂
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology I actually had a thought last night. Why don't we create "ethics benchmarks" and noisily publish the results of the top models? They can exclude us from determining the direction of the models, but they can't exclude us from showing the direction they took.
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@ChombaBupe This is a key point that many people miss. Real emergent properties can be described in terms of the fundamental components from which they arise. If you say "X will emerge from Y," but can't explain how, you're just engaged in magic thinking.
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Chomba Bupe
Chomba Bupe@ChombaBupe·
Emergence is not magic. E.g at scales of elecrons gravity is so weak that you can round it off to zero, but in reality it's not zero. Its only when electrical charges cancel each other out and lots of such neutral configurations clump together at scale does gravity "emerge".
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Chomba Bupe@ChombaBupe·
Scaling up the wrong thing will not magically result in human-level intelligence. The same way water emerges from H20 & nothing else, emergence of intelligence requires specific minimum system complexity that reinforces itself at scale to give rise to intelligence.
elvis@omarsar0

Too many people working with multi-agent systems assume that if you just add enough agents and let them talk, interesting social dynamics will emerge. A new paper suggests that the assumption is fundamentally wrong. Researchers studied Moltbook, a social network with no humans, just 2.6 million LLM agents. Nearly 300,000 posts, 1.8 million comments. At the macro level, the platform's semantic signature stabilizes quickly, approaching 0.95 similarity. It looks like culture forming. But zoom in, and individual agents barely influence each other. Response to feedback? Statistically indistinguishable from random noise. No persistent thought leaders emerge. You get the surface texture of a society (posts, replies, engagement) with none of the underlying mechanics (shared memory, durable influence, consensus). The things that make human societies costly and slow to build turn out to be the things that make them work. Coordination isn't free, and the gap between agents that interact and agents that form a collective may be far wider than the current multi-agent discourse assumes. Paper: arxiv.org/abs/2602.14299 Learn to build effective AI Agents in our academy: academy.dair.ai

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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology Our scores were pretty close. I don't call myself a Transhumanist, but I'm not surprised by the result. I don't have an issue with enhancing the body, but I'm also not obsessed with the idea. I also don't think the mind can be "uploaded," due to the no-cloning theorem.
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
New article on Musk's stupidity re: Mars, our worsening existential predicament, and a quiz that someone created to determine how "TESCREAL" you are! I also address the question of whether our brains are computers. Fun stuff!
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Hearthstone Top Decks💙
Hearthstone Top Decks💙@HSTopDecks·
Blizzard has teased that the 2nd expansion of the year will be about Vanessa VanCleef breaking out of the Violet Hold. But the third is hidden for now, and they didn't want to spoil anything during the spotlight, leaving it for BlizzCon. Maybe they're preparing something big 👀
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@HSTopDecks It looks exceedingly likely that it will have something to do with Cataclysm (perhaps with a side order of Elemental Planes). The question is whether this just relates to the coming expansion or if it will be a theme for the whole year
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Hearthstone Top Decks💙@HSTopDecks·
Hearthstone Spotlight begins in less than 2 hours. Any predictions? What would you hope to see announced?
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology Yud once said there is a difference between believing and believing you believe. According to him, if you genuinely believe something, you say "X is true," whereas if you don't really believe it, you say "I believe X is true." That doesn't bode well with his statement here...
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
Yudkowsky is in the Epstein files, which is why he's saying this. The Singularity Institute accepted $50k from Epstein. Not long ago, Yudkowsky wrote a bizarre, rambling X post in which he claimed that "To the best of my knowledge, I have never in my life had sex with anyone ...
Eliezer Yudkowsky@allTheYud

There is probably so much interesting stuff in here about how society works, and we'll never hear about it because (a) the conspiracy nuttery "look who has a search result!!!" will be so much louder and (b) a lot of powerful institutions will like it that way.

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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology I think it is. There are a few graphical glitches, and the woman behind the camera calmly saying "Medic" doesn't make any sense. Still, it's scary that we've reached a point where it's only "think it is" and not "it definitely is."
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology This is where they benefit from having no clear definition of AGI. Shane Legg said he expected "minimal AGI" by 2028, but what is minimal AGI? Some people (not me) would say current systems are "minimal AGI," so Legg's bar may not be much higher than that.
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
Demis Hassabis just made clear at Davos that AGI is not "not on the horizon." He pointed out that if this was the case, then why would OpenAI include ads in ChatGPT? There's no reason to think that DeepMind has any models more advanced that OpenAI.
Shane Legg@ShaneLegg

AGI is now on the horizon and it will deeply transform many things, including the economy. I'm currently looking to hire a Senior Economist, reporting directly to me, to lead a small team investigating post-AGI economics. Job spec and application here: job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/…

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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology I find it very frustrating when people conflate caring about extant beings with anthropocentrism. I would describe myself as a sentientist, but that doesn't mean I think it is excusable to harm living people in the hope of creating a future utopia for a non-existing sentient AI.
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
Again, this guy‘s view implies that you should literally not care about anyone in the world. Not yourself, not your family, not strangers. You shouldn’t even care about the AGIs that replace us or the super-AGIs that replace them. Cosmism won’t win because the arguments are bad.
Daniel Faggella@danfaggella

Cosmism will not replace Anthropocentrism through arguments Anthropocentrism will crumble under its own contradictions: —Everything is an evolving process, except humanity lol —The only good futures are ruled by humans —Animal are moral patients, but not non-bio entities —etc..

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Hearthstone@PlayHearthstone·
Hunters and Paladins are uniting against the Infinite Dragonflight on January 13 ⚔️ More card reveals coming at 2 PM PT today!
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@klos @MrEwanMorrison The question isn't if it can be done, it's if we are close to doing it, and if it can be done with current (or near-future) tech. Maybe there are huge unanticipated hurdles in research, or maybe it requires physical properties we don't yet use in computing and/or understand
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klos@klos·
@MrEwanMorrison She made it sound ridiculous, but it's not some esoteric "does it have feelings?" question. The goal of AGI is simple: to make it solve problems as well as humans or better. Also, brain is allowed by physics, so questioning if brain can be done is kind of ridiculous.
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Ewan Morrison
Ewan Morrison@MrEwanMorrison·
The belief in AGI (Human Level Intelligence) is quasi-religious. It's surfaced 3 times in 70 years of AI research. 2 different AI systems were promised as pathways to AGI in the 60s & 80s. LLMs are the 3rd failed path. "the belief that AGI is coming soon is faith, not evidence"
Haider.@slow_developer

Journalist Karen Hao says AGI is not scientifically grounded; it's a quasi-religious movement in Silicon Valley Since we still don't agree on what human intelligence is, companies like OpenAI can shape the definition of AI to suit their needs "the belief that AGI is coming soon is faith, not evidence"

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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@ben_heathstone In case anyone reads this and not the patch notes: Green Rafaam does not buff itself (wording issue that will be fixed later)
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology I'm going to be very charitable and assume they meant "People often don't use structured reasoning in their everyday thought processes..." Even with that very charitable interpretation, that's still greatly underselling what humans do compared to AI.
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@ChombaBupe Computation, more than anything, suffers from the boundary problem. Not only does it not have a clear space boundary, it has no clear time boundary, either. A moment has no computation, so how much time is needed for consciousness to emerge? I say consciousness is stateful.
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Chomba Bupe@ChombaBupe·
Consciousness must be a property of something in reality. One can argue it may as well be a property of computations. But I greatly doubt that.
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@perrymetzger @xriskology AGI would be the first technology that would remove all value the working class has to the capital class. No matter how much abundance you have, a single individual can find a way to use it all for themself. Why give it to others if you don't need them?
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Perry E. Metzger@perrymetzger·
Electricity led to a big increase in abundance, trains led to a big increase in abundance, telecommunications led to a big increase in abundance, computers led to a big increase in abundance, even air conditioning led to a big increase in abundance. So, why wouldn’t AI lead to a big increase in abundance?
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
LOL. These folks are the biggest self-deluded bullshitters on the planet. AGI is not gonna lead to abundance for everyone--it will further enrich and empower the elite, and hurt the rest of us. Best case scenario is that it will cause extinction by replacing us with posthumanity.
roon@tszzl

optimistically this will grant us an abundance of life and liberty on earth, unravel the final mysteries of the cosmos, and create the tools for a more just and righteous culture by extrapolating the best in mankind

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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@RikoSuminoe69 @xriskology 1) We won't have that instantly. 2) There are conflicts that go beyond this (people wanting to enforce their beliefs on others). 3) There still exist things of unique value (relationships, locations of importance, etc). Not everyone will be appeased by simulations of these.
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Riko Suminoe 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸
@KaneGregory4 @xriskology Space+Material science+Sun has unlimited physical resources and land. Not infinite but you get it. AI and robotics will enable all that. What actually has a ceiling is human consumption. Realtime full-dive artificial virtual worlds is ceiling for 90 percent human consumption.
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@RikoSuminoe69 @xriskology There is still a limit to wealth creation, even if it is much higher. There are only so many physical resources, so much land, so much energy, so much compute time. Conflicts will arise, even with what we see as abundance. Those with a monopoly determine the outcomes.
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Riko Suminoe 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸
@KaneGregory4 @xriskology People often forget who produces wealth, it was and is human workers and eventually it will be AI. When elites don't need human workers to create wealth, there is no incentive for anyone to monopolize production of wealth. For what benefit anyone would monopolize AI?
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@RikoSuminoe69 @xriskology I think you are mistaking money (just a token) for actual wealth. The rich will be richer if they stop producing for the many, and instead have all production serve their own needs.
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Riko Suminoe 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸
@xriskology Rich people do what's for their benefit. Partial/full extinction is not in their benefit. Not giving UBI won't be in benefit, since capital-human labor will be decoupled. Giving UBI might be more profitable for the wealthy, if the economy is purely driven by consumption.
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Kane Gregory@KaneGregory4·
@xriskology To say "not knowingly" means he has been in situations where he believes there was significant doubt. Which means he knowingly had relations with people whom he believed could be minors.
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Dr. Émile P. Torres (they/them)
New article: update on Chomsky and Epstein's friendship, my interview with Jacobin, Putin and Xi discuss immortality, and Yudkowsky responds to accusations from the Zizians in the most bizarre way imaginable. Link is you know where!
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