Kevin Hampton
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@TroxelDerek @WestCoastCFB OSU wasn't in the top 3 for the entire 25-year period. It was 99-2013 as I posted earlier. Almost all of the bad seasons happened from that point to 2021 due to the Gary Andersen hire and the first few years under Jonathan Smith post-Andersen
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@KevinHampt74140 @WestCoastCFB If we're talking the last 25 years of the PAC (not including covid year), OSU was 160-149, .518%) with 11 losing seasons, three 10 wins, 1 shared conf title, and no conf title game appearances. Is it better than dead last, yes. But I'd bet it's not close to top 3.
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In the CFP Era (2014-Current), WSU has the 5th best winning % among former PAC-12 programs (behind Oregon, Washington, Utah, USC).
Oregon State ranks 12/12 however.
Chris Maathuis@sports8
It’s crazy how all these new PAC-12 fans act like Washington State and Oregon State were relevant in the old league. Let me remind you, they got left behind for a reason.
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@TroxelDerek @WestCoastCFB Yeah, I'm talking the last 25 years of the former Pac-12. IMO much more relevant in this discussion than what OSU was in the 70s and 80s. UO wasn't all that great for much of that time. I do think OSU began to wake up when Brooks took UO to the Rose Bowl.
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@KevinHampt74140 @WestCoastCFB OSU has played in 1 Rose bowl and has 1 conference title (shared) in the last 65 years. They've had five 10 wins in their history and never had back to back 10 win seasons. It goes beyond Gary Anderson. Mike Riley saw the writing on the wall.
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@jasonkredline @AssetKeen C'mon man. Canzano covers the Pac-12 and other area sports institutions for a living. He's a legit journalist. Not "literally a waterboy" for anything.
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@AssetKeen I repeated that less than 90 million is a loss for the Mountain west number in this very post.
Stand by that.
Canzano is literally a water boy for the pac 12. It’s sourced piece of info, nice to have, it’s not the whole picture.
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John Canzano actually being willing to say that the mountain west took less than half as an actual sourced report.
You always gotta take things from Canzano with a big ole grain of salt, but the fact that he’s willing to actually report it by referring to sources is interesting.
Regardless, unlv and Air Force will receive about 14 million dollars this summer, that’s enough to keep the people in Vegas happy.
I’m guessing there was a small payment from the pac 12, and that the mountain west ultimately just kept their withheld distributions and the sides moved on.
If the Mountain West took less than half, to me that represents a pretty bad loss.
I hope we get an actual court document, and we don’t have to rely on reports from a pac 12 reporter, or a rebuttal report of some kind from a Mountain West homer, cause I just do not trust canzano, or Wilner for that matter whatsoever.
Really would like something from Ross Delenger about it tbh.
I stand by the fact that the people at UNLV made a bad call with all of this.
Unlv could have killed off the Mountain West, and should have. Two conferences is an unnecessary market inefficiency, and not recognizing that was dumb.
The litigation could have been prevented by parties from both sides if people would drop their egos.
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@daverh55 @SSN_Pac12 The departing MWC schools were always going to have to pay something and they knew that it was a given. It is the amount that has been in debate. That's different from the poaching penalties (which could be very little) but the settlement will cover both.
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@SSN_Pac12 Millions of dollars are going to the MW with this settlement. Hard to paint that as a massive win for the Pac. Thank you for the cash! Time for everybody to move on.
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If this is true, what a massive win for the Pac-12
It seems to be the consensus is that under $80M is a Pac win, over is a MW win
Jon Wilner@wilnerhotline
I would bet heavily on the Under. And by heavily, I mean every last cent
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@morelobo @SSN_Pac12 The Pac does not believe the poaching penalties are enforceable. The overall settlement will include whatever the former MWC schools are paying to leave and that has never been in question other than the amount
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@SSN_Pac12 The pac didn't want to pay dime one. Not a dime, and, so any payment to the MWC is a win,...quit with this bull shit. I have never seen more insecure fans than the pac2 teams,...moooooo
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@Mikehomeseller I think The Doors for sure. Morrison was truly irreplaceable as a frontman and lyricist. Someone like Bonham, as great as a drummer as he was, could have been replaced and Zeppelin would have continued to be a huge band
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What band suffered the most by a band member leaving or dying?
#mikesquestions
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@historyrock_ I'm on board with most of these bands. Would drop The Velvet Underground, Radiohead and Nirvana out of top 10. U2 was great in the 80s-early 90s and the current talking points don't change that. Not sure where The Doors hate comes from. A great band.
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They don’t want to be pushed out of the FBS and CFP conversation.
They think it is the first step to total relegation.
NDSU is FBS@NdsuToFBS
I think a G6 playoff would be a blast. I don't understand why so many in the G6 aren't sold. Wouldn't it be fun to be in a playoff you could win? The FCS playoffs were fantastic when App State, Georgia Southern, JMU, etc. were in it as well. This would be way better.
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What are some of your favorite songs that have the word “home” in the title?
#mikesquestions
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