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Free, but biased, half-truth-telling-with-exaggeration media = Non-governmental brainwashing propaganda

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung He founded Republic of Turkey in 1923, 2 yrs AFTER CPC was founded. So it's contemporary enough in the sense that CPC already emerged to lead China in the future
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Turing Complete@CompleteTuring·
@KnowBothSides @AngelicaOung At no point was I talking about contemporary China. It's you who got triggered for no reason to jump in CCP's defense for an insult that doesn't exist and reply w/ deranged nonsequiturs. Perhaps look into the mirror as you are behaving the same way as kneejerk China-bad ppl.
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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
Angelica is going to Istanbul! I'm splurging a little for the non-stop flights from Taipei to Istanbul but I feel like I can justify it because...um the flights would have been thru Dubai and I didn't want the extra excitement. Istanbul will be excitement enough as it is! I have been yearning to visit Türkiye for at least three years, ever since I fell in love with Ottoman history, which is dramatic, entrancing, but also kind of compact you know. 36 sultans continuous in the House of Osman over 600 years. Very different from the unmanagably shaggy Chinese history...but it's also surprising how the same themes and tropes come up. Of course...it's not just for the history I'm going for. I'm also going to be checking out Türkiye's magnificent foods! There will be a lot of elite kebabs in my future. And I hear Ottoman-core recreated palace foods is now a thing. And of course, let's not forget...the cats! But wait! There's more! Actually my trip to Istanbul is just a wrapper for my first-ever visit to the @dalkeybookfest where you will find me on panels on Taiwan, China, nuclear energy and more with luminaries such as @SonyKapoor @ProfPaulBehrens @PerneInAGyre @MkBlyth @janabakunina and @davidmcw! So any mutuals in Istanbul...is there a favorite baklava place you know where we can have Turkish coffee so thicc it violates physics? Let's meet up! And of course...there's still time to pick up tickets to the Dalkey Book Fest for the true lovers of the printed word, and pints! June 16-18 Istanbul Jun 18-22 Dalkey Book Fest! June 22-25 Istanbul Part Deux
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树海@linsqzr·
@KnowBothSides @RepOfSomaliland Since the two countries merged through legal means, the prior recognition was naturally transferred to the newly formed state.
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REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND@RepOfSomaliland·
🇨🇳The Government of the People’s Republic of China stop the hypocrisy! In 1960, under Premier Zhou Enlai and Foreign Minister Chen Yi, you recognized the State of Somalilands independence—when the PRC was still fighting for full international recognition. Here’s the telegram you sent to our leaders. You needed legitimacy then. Now you “express grave concern” and oppose Israel 🇮🇱 recognizing Republic of Somaliland. Same principle. Different standard. That’s hypocrisy.
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CHINA MFA Spokesperson 中国外交部发言人@MFA_China

China expresses grave concern over Israel’s recognition of #Somaliland and is firmly against it. China notes the statement issued immediately by the government of the Federal Republic of Somalia firmly rejecting the move. Regional organizations and countries, including the African Union, the Arab League, the Gulf Cooperation Council, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and Intergovernmental Authority on Development, have also deplored and strongly condemned the move. According to the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and international law, Somaliland is an inalienable part of Somalia’s territory. China firmly supports Somalia’s sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity and opposes any move to split its territory. The issue of Somaliland is entirely Somalia’s internal affair. It should be resolved by the Somali people in a way suited to their national conditions and in line with the constitution. Countries outside the region should stop unwarranted interference. No country should seek selfish interests by aiding and abetting separatism in other countries. We urge the Somaliland authorities to stop at once their separatist activities and collusion with external forces.

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung You wonder cuz you have this sense of superiority (fuxk it) - "Atatürk was such a great leader that if he had led China, he could have done much better than any Chinese leader and China would have been much better off". I don't see any other reason to put a Turkish leader in CN
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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
January’s conspiracy theory is now March’s New York Times article. But I’m curious. What happened to their strategic sequencing? Surely it should have been decapitation followed by inciting riots. My theory which could totally be wrong is the demonstrations were organic at first and they saw an opportunity to piggyback onto it. But a lot of assets got burned and communications cut so they didn’t have resources for round 2.
Aaron Bastani@AaronBastani

Interesting we are already at the point where there’s tacit admission that Mossad have been involved in protests inside Iran. Grievances have been very real, of course, but this coheres with accounts of starlink units and firearms coming into the country via Israel.

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@RickJoe_PLA @AlexLuck9 Only bc Japan starts their re-militarization dream; otherwise they can just sit out Taiwan war like the US will do and everything will be fine
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Rick Joe@RickJoe_PLA·
@AlexLuck9 Tbf out of all of them, Japan faces arguably the most pressing air challenge by a longshot. The others can afford to dillydally a bit.
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Alex Luck@AlexLuck9·
"Tokyo’s main aim is to produce a new fighter by the mid-2030s, whereas London and Rome are more interested in GCAP producing a cutting-edge “system of systems” — a jet that operates in concert with a swarm of drones — over a less rigid timetable..." ft.com/content/c3de1d…
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Dmitri Alperovitch@DAlperovitch·
Taiwan needs to be taking careful notes right now about how relatively easy it is to shut down a small waterway vital to the commerce of an adversary that desires to attack you, and to gain great leverage while doing so…
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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@GlennLuk @PAstynome Today's China fits the definition of KMT founder Sun Yat-sen's 三民主義Three Principles of the People👇 while KMT has betrayed him by adopting western democracy
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Glenn@GlennLuk·
@PAstynome Agree it wasn’t ideological difference, but a competence/capability one…
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Phryne Astynome@PAstynome·
The KMT’s vision was a vision that was supported by all Chinese people in the past (make China strong and resist foreign interference). That they share this with the CPC means absolutely nothing since any sane Chinese person would have those views. They were unable to execute it.
Jason Dean@_Jason_Dean_

One level of cope is believing that Taiwan has a snowball’s chance in hell of resisting reunification The deeper (more truthful) level of cope is recognizing that the modern day CCP is closer to the KMT in terms of ideology, so Chiang wins either way

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@AngelicaOung Americans are so brainwashed that they still want their cake and eat it too🤷‍♂️
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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
It’s hilarious if true that Americans thought Iran would go down in any way shape or form like Iran. Saddam’s Iraq was a one-man show where he had a habit of executing ppl who bought him bad news and was so afraid of coups he kept branches of his armies from talking to each other. Apparently even when the Americans were hours away from rolling in on Bagdad he was still directing ghost divisions that’s been long out of action. It’s possible also that since he was our guy for such a long time he didn’t think we were really out to get him. In Iran the ayatollah was a 86-year old man waiting for the bell to ring and we’ve already done so many decapitation of their leaders in the IRGC before they’ve explicitly decentralized command.
Aaron Bastani@AaronBastani

It does increasingly feel like large numbers of people in US, Europe and Israel just presumed Iran would roll over because they are a brown Muslim country. A domestic industrial base? No way. Can’t be overstated how much people’s biases were shaped by how stupid this man was.

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung So forget abt dreaming of Atatürk leading China. China has BETTER, period. Get it now? Take your Atatürk L for China, keep him to Turkey, ok?
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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung Ok, my point is Atatürk's policies and China's do have similarities, but I don't think he can do a better job than today's CPC. No one can beat today's CPC for China after decades of experience and hard lessons, and an ideology of govt controlling the capitalists, not vise versa.
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Turing Complete@CompleteTuring·
@KnowBothSides @AngelicaOung Just let it go if you are going to keep bringing up subjects that are at best tangential to my original point. Both the KMT and CPC regret that it's Yuan Shikai and warlords that took control from Sun Yatsen. So my Ataturk comments isn't that controversial.
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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
Did YOU want to watch CCTV's AI Martial Arts cartoon about the Straits of Hormuz crisis? Complete with fighting Persian Cats? Well I subtitled it for you so you can enjoy it in all its trope-laden glory! Remember kids, the mountains will stay standing while the green water flows, and the true art of war is not figuring out how to fight, but how to stop!🥷😼🦅
Steve Hou@stevehou

Chinese state media made an AI-generated cartoon about the US-Iran conflict. Extremely well done!

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Know Both Sides@KnowBothSides·
@shetlerjones Nah, China is only one strait away from Taiwan while US is so far away from Iran, thus logistic problems, has to rely on limited number of vulnerable bases
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@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung Then India has same pop. Unlike China, there has been no war in Turkey since 1922, no US embargo for 20+ yrs. Ataturk was great leader. Every country has its own, so meaningless to put them in another country.
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Turing Complete@CompleteTuring·
@KnowBothSides @AngelicaOung With China's size, pop, and other endowments, it should always be much stronger than Turkey. There's also no question that Ataturk was one of the greatest revolutionaries and nation builders of the 20th century. And Turkey was far more developed than China for a long time.
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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
A big swing and a miss from both Teortaxes and policytensor. First, Teor is correct in that there’s no magic kit China can airdrop in Iran to make them win the war. Even if there were, they wouldn’t. But there is also no way for Israel to make Iran fall. Even if they are totally evil and willing to kill as many Iranians as they can. The last I checked, they haven’t even managed to get all of Hamas out of Gaza. Sure sure they’ll go on a killing spree. Maybe even drop a nuke. Well do they have enough nukes to kill ALL the Iranians? Because if not they haven’t solved their problem, just created new ones. Iran will not fall. Israel and America will not stop. I honestly don’t know how it ends except things are going to get a lot worse. Then America will stop and when America stops Israel will too. “Oh Angelica but all the GCC countries are going to turn on Iran too…” if things get bad bad GCC ppl are going to turn on their governments before Iranians do. Ultimately this is existential for the Iranians but not for Americans. Maybe it’s kinda existential for Israel, but believe it or not their control over the US only goes so far.
Teortaxes▶️ (DeepSeek 推特🐋铁粉 2023 – ∞)@teortaxesTex

This is how you know the guy is going off the third worldist deep end. I find much of @policytensor's analysis neat but let's be serious. This is capeshit. What weapons can China "airdrop" to make a difference? To whom, even? And why would they? Iran will fall, sorry.

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Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸
It’s always been to Trump’s advantage that he can credibly threaten to be a madman. He’s got that unpredictable and flippant air that is genuinely bone-chilling. He’s also got the track record to prove he really does go for broke sometimes. And he plays it up really well. But he’s picked the wrong opponent this time to play this game.
Drop Site@DropSiteNews

🔸 NEW: Spokesperson of the Central Headquarters of Hazrat Khatam al-Anbiya: ➤ “Following previous warnings, if Iran’s fuel and energy infrastructure is attacked by the enemy, all energy, information technology, and desalination infrastructure belonging to the United States and the regime in the region will be targeted.”

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