Jimmy Wilson
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Only partisan hacks think it’s not a gerrymander.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You can keep making up your own definitions to words, that doesn’t make the map a partisan gerrymander.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You can keep being a partisan hack all you want, that doesn’t change the map to be fair
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 That. Is. Not. The. Definition. Of. Gerrymander. No. Matter. How. Many. Times. You. Repeat. It.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Because. It. Does. Not. Keep. Similar. Communities. Together.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Are you ever going to get around to telling us how the map that produced a 3-2 split was drawn to the GOP’s disfavor or nah?
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Ah yes, cause a map drawn specifically to ensure incumbents win their elections are not gerrymanders 🤣
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ger…
oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/…
I’m still trying figure out who the 2002 map (allegedly) disfavored politically. Also LOL @ incumbents as a “class.”
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Notice how it says “or class.”
Aka, incumbents.

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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Let’s assume that’s true for the sake of argument, unless it’s done to disfavor one party over another and actually does so it is not a gerrymander. You just ignoring a word’s definition is bizarre.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Bro literally just look at how the district was drawn. Look at how they don’t keep similar communities together.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You’ll need to go argue with Merriam-Webster and Oxford bc no it isn’t. Gerrymandering is the drawing of districts to favor one political party over another.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 That is not the definition of gerrymandering. We don’t get to invent definitions for words.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 A map that does not accurately represent the state’s human geography is a gerrymander. Full stop. I don’t care if it was done on purpose, to protect an incumbent, or if the parties agreed to it. Something being bipartisan does not make it okay.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 There 2002 map clearly did not place the GOP in a disfavored position—it was more successful than Dems. I have no clue what evidence you’re relying on for the notion that it was a partisan gerrymander.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Oh no no, by your argument, the Ohio map is fair. The supreme court didn’t rule on this map at all. So since democrats supported it, it must be fair!
And the 2010s Arkansas map was fair, because Dems drew it as a gerrymander even though it elected 4 republicans!
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Protecting incumbents and drawing lines specifically to benefit one party over another are not the same thing. They can go hand in hand, but they are not synonymous.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 The 2002 Connecticut map does not keep similar communities together, and was done so to protect incumbents.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 The Ohio GOP has repeatedly ignored its own Supreme Court there: redistricting, so Dems pretty much have to accept what they can get less the GOP just do whatever. CT simply calling the special master the GOP NH Court uses to barely alter the 2002 lines is a little different.
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You claimed that it was fair because it was 1. Originally drawn as a Republican gerrymander and 2. Was passed bipartisanly.
I was using your argument to see if your would stay consistent in instances where those claims would not benefit your party.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You actually didn’t use my argument bc I repeatedly noted that the GOP won 60% of the seats under said bipartisan map. Is that the same as a “bipartisan map” that doesn’t come close to even party registration?
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 I think a bipartisan map that produces a close to even split is by its nature fair. If you have some evidence to push against that 2002 CT map please provide it.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Are the Dems out there winning 50%+ of the Ohio seats? Are they even matching their registration? Believe it or not, not every situation is analogous.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @LCWAJMBS @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 In fairness, I think the new Ohio map is very fair.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 You seem unable to focus on CT. First it was Arkansas and now it’s Ohio. Please explain how the bipartisan map under which the GOP won 60% of the seats was gerrymandered against the GOP. Are you suggesting the GOP would’ve won 80% of the seats in CT under a “fair” map?
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 So are you going to say the new Ohio map is fair because it was passed by the bipartisan commission?
Political agreement does not make the map fair.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 So the map that both parties were totally fine with and under which the GOP won three of five seats was not fair? 😂 I’m anxious to see the evidence to support that conclusion.
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@Izengabe_ @Mapping_Buckeye @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Dems didn’t draw the 2002 map. The Bipartisan Redistricting Commission did on a 9-0 basis. The GOP won 60% of the seats under that map. So the Dems/Commission gerrymandered it in favor of the GOP is your theory, I guess? And now you believe that has backfired?
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The point is CT was drawn against geography & gerrymandered for political "fairness" reasons in 2002. When political coalitions changed the map was never updated because Democrats unilaterally refused to change it. It has essentially the same gerrymandered lines it did in 2002 even if the reason for them changed.
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@Mapping_Buckeye @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 It was a gerrymander when the GOP and Dems both agreed it was fair and it favored the GOP 3-2? Words have definitions and it’s clear that you don’t know that of the word “gerrymander.”
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@LCWAJMBS @Izengabe_ @posty2 @mustarastas88 @NOVAaocfan20 Cool, so I don’t care who drew it or when. It was a gerrymander then and it was a gerrymander now. Democrats kept it because it benefitted them. That’s a fact. They would have redrawn if it didn’t.
It doesn’t matter who or why it was drawn, it’s not a fair map.
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