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@LG_Reason

Aalborg, Danmark Katılım Ağustos 2020
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LookAway@LG_Reason·
Now you know that the employees at IOG are compliant. Obedient employees are just that, opposite of creative and competent. Compliancy is the main requirement when @IOHK_Charles is hiring. That's why I dont believe IOG can deliver anymore.
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LookAway
LookAway@LG_Reason·
@HiiiPowerRevo Now you know that the employees at IOG are compliant. Obedient employees are just that, opposite of creative and competent. Compliancy is the main requirement when @IOHK_Charles is hiring. That's why I dont believe IOG can deliver anymore.
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Fortune👨🏾‍💻MPH: Health Policy Analyst
Look at Charles behavior when things don’t go his way or when people disagree with him even to the slightest. Do you not know what it means to be a midnight ambassador?
🪏 Jonah Koch@jonahkoch

@HiiiPowerRevo @TheRealWeb3Kat @HolgerCardano24 Why wouldn’t it be ok? I’m so confused by this stance. HiiiPowerRevo explain to me how it’s unethical? Don’t these ambassadors hold ADA? That is the only constitutional requirement to participate. Open and permissions-less is the expectation, the rest is web2 not blockchain

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Charles Hoskinson
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles·
Tell him to go to hell. I'm not the greatest threat to Cardano. I didn't destroy Cardano. Have him issue a public apology FOR EVERYTHING he said. Talking to me requires civility and respect. You don't treat me like a human toilet, and when you don't like the result, ask for a reset. He's trash. Everyone can see it now. We move on.
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Heresiarch
Heresiarch@LeHeresiarch·
@HolgerCardano24 wants you to know the following: "I would like to invite you to a private 1-on-1 call with me. No BS, no fighting, no recordings - just two grown men having a constructive conversation for the sake of our ecosystem. @IOHK_Charles "
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Dave
Dave@ItsDave_ADA·
This morning I've created a new dashboard on DaveGov, the goal is to showcase Cardanos largest DRep spenders, the DReps that have voted Yes on the most ADA withdrawals so far each year, this is configurable by year, so you can see this data also historically. You can see the leaderboard total YES votes in ADA, and the amount withdrawn from the treasury so far. I won't post the top spenders in the screenshot below, but feel free to have a browse, this is purely for awareness. Voting Yes for most proposals keeps you popular, but doesn't enforce fiscal responsibility or prove that you understand what you are voting for. This page auto-updates. Hope you like it, feedback completely welcome! governance.cardano-visualisation.com/spenders
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Holger - Guarding our Vision!
Holger - Guarding our Vision!@HolgerCardano24·
Not as IAGON CTO, but as DRep, let me say the following: You caused all this. You attacked, you burned your own holders to the ground, and you publicly said that you do not give a fuck about us. You called me an animal with a disease, you called me trash, and you said I should go to hell - after I offered to talk for the sake of our ecosystem. And all you can come up with is another DARVO attack? You are officially a disgrace for our ecosystem! Did you little mathematician forgot the most basic calculation of all? The ADA you get from the treasury and otherwise, so you can pay people and also enrich yourself, ONLY has a value because of US!!!! Not even a month ago or whenever that was, I said, I will vote NO on all IO things, because I find the CEO of IO unfit to do his job correctly. And what did you do in that time? Attacked a project in your own ecosystem, burned down ADA Holders and there assets (real money lost). Attacked people personally, tried to blackmail/guild-force YUTA and the japanese community in voting yes, gaslighting your entire ecosystem to fund you. And when that all did not work. You came along as the most friendly lets-work-together-guy, in order that we at least take this bait, after you showed everyone what kind of person you are - and that you have NO LIMITS on how far you go to destroy, manipulate and blackmail/guild-force people! And EVEN AFTER all this, I offer you my hand, to have a friendly and constructive conversation - and all you do is shit in my face and double down on your personality disorder pattern again! @Cardano_CF This guy can not be trusted anymore! He is not working for the Ecosystem, he is working against it! And at the end a PURE and 100% personal message to you Charles - which i will post as images/GIFs in the attachments of this post!
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Phil 🪏
Phil 🪏@phil_uplc·
Yep it’s all Charles’ fault the token that you have been dumping month after month on your retail holders has tanked in value.
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Holger - Guarding our Vision!@HolgerCardano24

A short timeline. Just what happened, in order. Decide for yourselves. 1. A DRep (@NaVi_GaT0R) asked whether DReps with paid IO-linked roles should abstain on IO's treasury proposals. A normal conflict-of-interest question. 2. Charles did not answer the question. He went after Iagon - publicly, repeatedly, over days, to his 1M+ follower account, with IO employees and IO-aligned accounts amplifying. He said Navjit had "lost the plot," called the concern "objectively wrong," and publicly stated Iagon's leadership should be replaced or the project could collapse. 3. IAG fell ~32% in 24h. Holders - who are also ADA holders - lost real money. 4. As IAG was crashing, the price-crash chart was posted at Charles. He replied with a video clip of Bane: "Your punishment must be more severe... not of your body... of your soul." 5. Charles began describing the conflict-of-interest question as an "attack on his ambassadors." It was not. No ambassador was attacked. A DRep asked, in public, whether DReps with paid IO ties should abstain on IO's proposals - a standard governance question. Reframing a question as an "attack" is what made everything that followed look justified. 6. On that false premise, Charles hosted an X Space and said, about the token holders of a project in his own ecosystem: "I don't give a shit about your token holders... I don't give a shit about your bag holders... If you attack my ambassadors, I will burn you to the ground." He also said the way out was to "apologize" and "back the fuck off." 7. When a community member said I was "obsessed," Charles replied that I have "CDS," that it is "incurable," and that people should "let him go." CDS - Cognitive Dysfunction Syndrome - is a veterinary diagnosis: age-related dementia in dogs and cats. So a sitting DRep raising sourced concerns was described in the language a vet uses for a deteriorating animal. 8. Charles then posted a unity video: the only thing that can destroy Cardano is internal fighting. 9. When some Japanese DReps voted against IO's research proposal, Charles posted directly to the Japanese community: if the proposal did not pass, "Cardano will lose its scientists" and "our lab will be forced to close." He then asked the community to "delegate to dReps who support Cardano's research agenda" - in other words, to move voting power away from DReps who voted the wrong way. When that pressure did not deliver the result, the threat hardened: approve the proposal, or be responsible for ending Cardano's research entirely. Only after this also failed to work did the tone suddenly soften. 10. As hundreds of holders engaged with these concerns, Charles shifted tone - "#strongertogether," inviting conversation. 11. I took that at face value. Then I did something he never did. After he attacked Iagon, after the "burn you to the ground," after his words helped wipe ~32% off a token held by thousands - I was the one who extended a hand. I publicly offered him a private, no-recording, one-on-one call. Man to man. Not for me - for the ecosystem. The person who was attacked took the first step toward peace. 12. His public answer to that olive branch was the pattern again, in one post. He said: "Tell him to go to hell." He demanded I issue "a public apology FOR EVERYTHING he said" before he would even speak. He said: "You don't treat me like a human toilet." And then, in the last three lines: "He's trash. Everyone can see it now. We move on." Read that ending again. I offered him a private, calm conversation - and his response was to call me "trash" and tell the audience that this proves something about me. He attacked, and in the same breath framed the attack as evidence against the person he attacked. That is the reversal in its purest form: be the aggressor, then announce that the aggression exposes the victim. That is the sequence. I offered a calm, private conversation - and that was the response to it. One more thing worth seeing plainly. Not days apart. The same afternoon - roughly two hours between these two posts. First, in public, to the ecosystem: "Cardano is alive. The community is engaged... You are not passive holders. You are owners." "Let me show up the way I should." "I am inviting all of you to sit down and have a real conversation." "I am 100% focused on Cardano and Midnight. #strongertogether" Roughly two hours later, to me, after I publicly offered exactly that - a private, calm, one-on-one conversation: "Tell him to go to hell." "Have him issue a public apology FOR EVERYTHING he said." "You don't treat me like a human toilet." "He's trash. Everyone can see it now." That is the gap. "Stronger together" for the audience. Two hours later, "go to hell" and "he's trash" for the person who took him up on it. A real invitation to talk does not come with a demand to grovel first - and it does not curdle into "go to hell" within the same afternoon. Look at the whole shape of this. He attacked. He did not answer the question - he went after the people who asked it. When the damage was done and holders were losing money, he posted about punishment and souls. He said in public he would burn people to the ground. He pressured an entire national community to vote his way or be blamed for the end of Cardano's research. And then, step by step, he became the victim. The question became an "attack." The critics became aggressors. The man with 1M followers and the treasury proposals became the wronged party defending the vulnerable. When I - the one who was attacked - offered peace, he framed himself as the one owed an apology, and called me "trash" for asking. That reversal has a name: DARVO. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. It is not a diagnosis. It is a pattern, and the record above is the pattern, step by step, in his own words. So the practical question stands: Is this conduct - the attacks, the Bane clip aimed at people losing money, the "burn you to the ground," the pressure on the Japanese community, the false "victim" framing, the rejection of a good-faith olive branch - the conduct of someone who should be trusted with hundreds of millions of ADA from the community treasury? Cardano does not have a "leader." It has a community, a treasury, and contractors who ask that community for funding. IO is one of those contractors - currently asking for hundreds of millions of ADA, with a track record of missed timelines. A contractor asking the community for money does not get to attack the members of that community for doing the exact thing the governance system was built for: participating, voting, and asking questions. Respect for ADA holders is not optional for someone requesting their treasury. It is the job. Screenshots of every quote above are attached. Read them in full, and decide for yourselves.👇👇👇

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Charles Hoskinson
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles·
After reflecting deeply on this governance process, a few things are clearer to me than ever. Cardano is alive. The community is engaged. And that matters more than any single vote. But this process has shown me something important: Cardano's governance is real. You are not passive holders. You are owners. That is exactly what we built this for. It has also reminded me that when Cardano has needed it most, the Pentad delivered. IOG, EMURGO, the Cardano Foundation, Midnight Foundation, and Intersect have proven they can coordinate and bring critical integrations to life when the ecosystem needed it. That coordination layer matters now more than ever. So let me show up the way I should. I will be in Singapore for the Cardano Summit and I will be on stage. I am also personally committing to partially top up our Token2049 sponsorship to Title level. Being on that main stage is where Cardano and Midnight need to be heard. To the Pentad, I am inviting all of you to sit down and have a real conversation about the future of governance and how we formalise this coordination going forward. I am 100% focused on Cardano and Midnight. Always have been. Let me prove it. #strongertogether
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THOR ⚔️
THOR ⚔️@Vikings_for_ADA·
@IOHK_Charles, @HolgerCardano24 wants you to know the following: I would like to invite you to a private 1-on-1 call with me. No BS, no fighting, no recordings - just two grown men having a constructive conversation for the sake of our ecosystem. I will follow you for the next 24 hours. Unblock me, follow me back, and DM me. Then we can switch to another channel where we can talk privately. It will be worth it. #Cardano is much bigger than both of us, and I sincerely hope you accept the offer to have an honest and constructive conversation. Thanks!
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Fortune👨🏾‍💻MPH: Health Policy Analyst
There’s no saving Charles H. God forbid Cardano following the path of the other chains that died out. But if that happens you’ll find Charles blaming everyone except himself. Cardano will only flourish when he’s not controlling every fucking thing about it with his threats
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Cardano YOD₳
Cardano YOD₳@JaromirTesar·
@TapTools There would be a huge conflict of interest, imo. He would have to abstain from FE proposals. Many teams work for IO, so he would need to abstain from many other proposals.
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TapTools@TapTools·
Would you support Charles Hoskinson becoming a Cardano dRep? cardano:native
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LookAway@LG_Reason·
@JaromirTesar Not sure, but leaning towards that it would be having a negative impact by being biased towards IO proposals
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Sic@Sic2336·
I guess @IOHK_Charles makes a good point. And yes, it's right. Our lives were not different back in 2021 when Cardano was at $100B mcap. And I do think most people are angry because $ADA is tanking. But it's been 5 years since then and nothing has changed. We didn't change the world. We didn't change our lives. We are pretty much in same situation just with less money (or at least the diamond hands lol). Yet I have 2 questions: - Is the mission still to change the world? That's what I signed up for, but it feels more far away than last year. - If IOG gets funded every year for the next 5, will we achieve that? If that's a yes for both, I'm happy with that answer. I still do believe some of the proposals should've been revisited. But I'm a nobody, just a random Saturday opinion.
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Tilia
Tilia@io_tilia·
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