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@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok Grok just made my point. Let’s not play anymore. Trump made a mistake, if you think otherwise you are in a cult

@LampDavis @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok I suggest you read Grok. It can open your thinking beyond what you think now. @Grok, will you please articulate for @LampDavis 1) the threat of Iran to US and the threat to Europe and the Mid East and consequently why other countries safety is also our safety?

Trump seems to think that if talks with Iran fail, he can strike a knockout blow by initiating a ground war—but the result is likely to be much messier, @thomaswright08 argues: theatlantic.com/international/…

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok Stretch yourself beyond grok. Iran held no threat to the US.

@LampDavis @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok As Grok said clearly, today, it doesn't exist. But tomorrow, it will exist and rapidly. If you think about it, honestly, Trump's execution was as good as can be.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok It is a war started without substance that will cause inflation in numerous countries, further degrade the reputation of the US and further weaken Trump’s approval ratings which are at 36%

@LampDavis @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok And so what do you think it is?

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok Saving the world from a nuclear threat that didn’t exist?

The first event, indeed, was a preface to this latest attack. It enabled what we are seeing now. I am not prowar. Not at all. Yet imagine if Trump announced future plans of what we are seeing right now? I have several friends that are Persians from Iran. I've had the advantage of knowing the hell Persians are going through. And I doubt your democrat news venues are keeping you democrat folk grounded in reality. Trump is saving the world right now. And brilliantly so.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok But not in this case. To be clear, Trump has said it isn’t a war. Then he said it was, then he said it wasn’t….

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok That supports what I have said

From Grok - some deeper perspective: Trump did not "start the Iran war" in the sense of some unprovoked invasion out of nowhere—context matters, and the war you're asking about began on February 28, 2026, with joint U.S.-Israeli airstrikes on Iran. nytimes.com +1 According to President Trump's own statements and administration messaging at the time, the strikes (called Operation Epic Fury) were launched to eliminate what the U.S. described as imminent threats from Iran's nuclear program, ballistic missile development, and regional proxy networks. In an 8-minute video posted on Truth Social announcing the operation, Trump said the U.S. had tried diplomacy after earlier strikes on Iranian nuclear sites in June 2025, but Iran "rejected every opportunity to renounce their nuclear ambitions" and was allegedly rebuilding its program while developing long-range missiles capable of threatening U.S. allies in Europe, U.S. troops overseas, and potentially the American homeland. pbs.org +1 He framed it as a defensive move "to prevent this very wicked, radical dictatorship from threatening America and our core national security interests," while also appealing directly to the Iranian people to "take over your government" (implying regime change as a desired outcome, though administration statements on that goal have shifted over time). reuters.com +1 Key context leading up to itFailed negotiations: Trump had set a 60-day deadline in early 2025 for a nuclear deal. When it expired without agreement, Israel struck first in what became the Twelve-Day War, and the U.S. later joined with larger-scale attacks on February 28. en.wikipedia.org Israeli role: Multiple reports indicate Trump's decision was heavily influenced by Israeli leadership (particularly Netanyahu's push to end diplomacy and neutralize the threat). The U.S. and Israel coordinated the initial bombardment, which targeted military sites, nuclear facilities, and top Iranian leadership—including the assassination of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. nytimes.com Broader rationale from the administration: Destroy Iran's ability to build nuclear weapons, degrade its missile program and navy, curb support for proxies attacking U.S. forces/allies, and (in some statements) secure shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump and officials described it as preventing a worse future conflict rather than starting one. en.wikipedia.org +1 Iran responded with missile and drone strikes on U.S. bases, Israel, and Gulf infrastructure, leading to an ongoing war (now in its fourth week as of late March 2026). There have been U.S. military deaths (around 6–13 reported), hundreds to over 1,500 Iranian civilian deaths (including from strikes on civilian sites like a school), and millions displaced. cfr.org Critics (including some in Congress and international observers) call it an illegal war of choice without congressional approval, driven by Israel and maximalist goals like regime change, with shifting public rationales from the White House. afsc.org +1 Supporters see it as overdue action against a regime that has defied sanctions, funded attacks on U.S. interests, and pursued weapons that could destabilize the region. In short, Trump's stated "why" boils down to stopping what he viewed as an intolerable, escalating nuclear/missile threat after diplomacy collapsed—joined at the hip with Israel's security priorities. Whether that holds up as the full story or justification is debated along partisan and international lines, but that's the direct rationale he and his team gave when ordering the strikes. The conflict is still fluid, with ceasefire talks happening amid continued fighting and threats.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok You are searching, as said, and it is very public, the Trump government said they had taken care of it months ago.

@LampDavis @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok "with short breakout potential if decided" - the operative fact.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok And no capacity to do anything with it. Through Oman negotiations they offered to down grade it. There is no reasonable explanation for the US starting a war. If Trump has failed to explain why he started the war why would anyone support it?

Yet Iran holds ~440kg 60% enriched uranium (enough for ~10 bombs if further processed), with short breakout potential if decided. Strikes damaged sites; stockpile location uncertain, inspections limited.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @grok So I was correct and so were US intelligence officials last year.

@LampDavis @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 @Grok - set us straight:

@4593rainier @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 Yet you believe the Trump government when they said they “obliterated” Iran’s nuclear program last year? Inform yourself.

@TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 I don’t believe biased dem propaganda rags.

@HestonChurchill @TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 There was no nuclear threat and your Republican government said that months ago.

@TheAtlantic @thomaswright08 Have democrat news venues told you democrat folk about the consequences of not confronting the Iranian nuclear threat?

@worsethancart @BBCWorld Do you imagine the BBC is the only organisation reporting on this?

@BBCWorld Fuck you bbc! Stay on your side of the pond!

Trump accused of showing classified map to passengers on private flight bbc.in/4t6GyCD

@Beltingsandwich @BBCWorld Yet here you are reading their posts

@BBCWorld My opinion of bbc world is so low I think I’d disregard a post about the end of the world.

@joanwortham1 @BBCWorld Trump’s approval rating is 36%.

@BBCWorld The democrats are trying to throw anything against the wall but nothing sticks. They can't get anyone to like them or their policies. It must suck being the loser, but you reap what you sow. This is propaganda.

@ategeka_hassan @BBCWorld What do you call people travelling on a private jet? Cargo?

@BBCWorld Passengers on a private jet ? Make it make sense please 🙏

@SweetCa40472719 @BBCWorld @BBC @PBS @NPR Yet here you are eagerly reading BBC posts.

@BBCWorld Defund the @BBC, or maybe Donald will do it for you and give the money back to the people for having to pay for this crap!! We defunded @PBS and @NPR for using a publicly funded medium who were pushing a democratic agenda.

@neurotelly @BBCWorld Do you imagine the BBC is the only organisation reporting on this?

@BBCWorld But of course he did! Good to see BBC is still searching hard for the bottom of the barrel.

@bennyred33 @BBCWorld Did that make sense when you typed it?

@BBCWorld Trump ended the Crowns 300 year rule, took their money and power. Desperation is a stinky cologne

@PepJoe @BBCWorld Do you imagine the BBC is the only organisation reporting this?

@BBCWorld So the BBC is posting a fake news story from 4 years ago, today, in which a normal person would assume this was a recent headline??

@PGard0191 @BBCWorld You could just read the article.

@BBCWorld Accuse? By who? put their name here. Oh! those "undisclosed sources!!"