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Le Classique

@LeClassiquePod

🎙️Le Classique Podcast🎙️Contributor on Le Beau Jeu, @FrenchFootShow, heard on BBC. 🇫🇷 football historians & Ligue 1 specialists. [email protected]

Paris, France Katılım Şubat 2021

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·5 Ara

🎙️THE TOP 50 🇫🇷 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYERS OF ALL TIME🎙️ When we set out on our journey, we wanted to celebrate both performance and legacy, by taking a look at: 🇫🇷Time pre-Premier League ⚽️Performance in the 🇬🇧 🎭Cultural impact 🇫🇷View from France Here’s the final list⬇️

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·12h

@RichDay_MUFC I’ve tried to explain this as best I can in my thread and in our podcast. My honest opinion is that Cantona “missed” the World Cup train and was playing abroad (with limited visibility) at a time when France had Papin (early 90s) and then ZZ & co. That’s why he’s not an icon.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·12h

@RichDay_MUFC Cantona is from Marseille & played primarily for clubs in the South (OM, Montpellier, Nîmes) after coming through the ranks at Auxerre. He was a local boy and there was (and still is) pride in 🇫🇷 at his success at Man Utd. But I would argue he’s not widely seen as a legend in 🇫🇷.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·1d

Cantona didn’t capture imagination in 🇫🇷 in the same way he did in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. He had played his way out of France by the early 90s because of misunderstandings, disciplinary issues and inconsistent form. He was also associated with the failure to qualify for the World Cup 94. Quick 🧵

Wayne Barton@WayneSBarton

Barely even mentioned in France?!

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·1d

@WayneSBarton I took the original point you were responding to as to why he doesn’t have the same aura now in France as he does in the UK, which is what I tried to reasonably elaborate in my thread. So we may be talking at cross purposes here.

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Wayne Barton@WayneSBarton·1d

@LeClassiquePod He was extremely highly rated in France prior to his move in England. I did write a biography about him, I’m well aware of how he was perceived.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·1d

And, of course, for far more context, you should really listen to our episode on the main man himself, his legendary time in the Premier League and the differing views in 🇫🇷 and 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (link ⬇️). We cover all those aspects. open.spotify.com/episode/6mvZSU…

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·1d

Cantona therefore slightly disappeared from 🇫🇷’s radar at the time and people were slightly bemused by his aura in England. It doesn’t make him any less of a legend in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( he was THE star / best player of the 90s for THE dominant club) but he’s not an icon in 🇫🇷.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·2d

Tout cela reste en partie subjectif et personnel. Ayant vécu plus de 25 ans au 🇬🇧 a partir de 1997, je peux néanmoins dire qu’Alan Shearer était le grand attaquant des 90s, et qu’Eric Cantona était LA star des 90s (et le meilleur joueur). Nike a quand même fait cette pub⬇️

𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗵 𝗦𝗰𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 🇲🇫@FrenchScousers

Dans aucun monde Éric Cantona, Cristiano Ronaldo et Alan Shearer sont devant Mohamed Salah en Premier League. Thierry Henry c’est débattable.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·2d

@levraiscw Buzelis, c’est aussi tranquillement impressionnant. À voir dans une équipe qui vise vraiment qqch (on connaît les Bulls) mais il reste efficace malgré la charge de travail accrue. Et ce plaisir du contre et du dunk ravageur…

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Simon Capelli-Welter@levraiscw·2d

Wemby et Buzelis, les deux seuls à plus de 100 contres et 100 threes Comme quoi, on peut tout tourner ou utiliser comme ça nous arrange… Bon courage en vrai à ceux qui votent pour le MVP cette saison, ça sent quand même le back 2 back SGA MVP 🧐

Simon Capelli-Welter@levraiscw

Pour clore ce débat du MVP, une stat me semble parfaite. Elle démontre tout : polyvalence, modernité, deux côtés du terrain, présence et continuité sur la saison La stat ? Cumuler 100 contres & 100 trois points sur la saison. Pas pour rien que seuls deux joueurs y parviennent 😛

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

And you can include his quality playing for his country. Absolutely decisive in 2016 & 2018 and the best player at the 2022 World Cup after Messi. As consistent AND a big game player as we’ve seen in France for a long time.

Tom Allnutt@TomAllnutt_

I’d say Griezmann owns the biggest gap in European football between how good a player has been for his club and league over a sustained period of time versus wider perception from outside. Brilliant player. La Liga will miss him. @TimesSport thetimes.com/sport/football…

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

As ever, the question is: what criteria are being used to rank as objectively as possible? Without even going into what the “Messi-Ronaldo generation” means, and therefore inherently subjectively, Antoine Griezmann is too low in that list imho.

The Touchline | 𝐓@TouchlineX

Our Messi-Ronaldo generation's top 10.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

@JulienBalidas Il part en fin de saison déjà, pour un contrat de 3 ans à 30 ans avec (sans doute) une augmentation salariale conséquente. On ne sait pas non plus ce qui a été offert par Lens, et il se disait peut-être qu’il n’avait pas de garanties sportives sur son rôle la saison prochaine?

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

@younasri Je pense justement qu’ils ont eu encore plus de respect après coup, dans le style “tu nous as dit que ce gars était bon mais sans plus alors que c’est un crack!”. La morale, comme d’hab, est de suivre la Ligue 1 pour découvrir des beaux joueurs 😊

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Younès@younasri·3d

@LeClassiquePod J’imagine parfaitement leur tete de « cause toujours avec ton joueur de L1 » quand tu leur disais ça 😭

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Younès@younasri·4d

Je travaillais à Londres en job etudiant quand il a signé, je disais à tous mes collègues (qui le connaissaient quasiment pas..farmer league) qu’il était trop fort et qu’ils allaient kiffer Il a été 10x plus forts que tout ce que j’aurais pu imaginer quand je leur ai dit ça 😭

West Ham United@WestHam

15 Goals in 60 seconds. Magic✨🇫🇷

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

We took a look at the context for 🇫🇷 football at the time, the importance and aura of L’Equipe in 1998 and since, as well as the very simple (yet often overlooked) point that managers do not communicate publicly in the same way as they do in the intimacy of the dressing room.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

In @vincentduluc’s words 20 years later, taking a look back at this feud and its impact, the L’Equipe journalist stated that, after 1998, “we woke up in a country that loved winning over football, and even more so over the game itself”. Not an inaccurate statement either.

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Le Classique@LeClassiquePod·3d

🚨NEW EPISODE🚨 With Tuchel’s list of 35 for 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, we take a look at the great feud of 🇫🇷 football between World Cup ’98 winning manager Aimé Jacquet and sports newspaper L’Equipe, the nadir of which was Jacquet’s 28-man squad a month before the World Cup open.spotify.com/episode/1w5YZI…

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