Lee Scott

@jamiehuds94 Leeds didn’t break the rule you did as it didn’t exist

Yes we spied yes we will be punished but what they are asking for doesn’t make sense Leeds 200,000 fine 2019 Canada woman’s team 2024 6pts deduction Southampton thrown out of a 200million plus game of football seems crazy 6-8pts3-5million fine should be outcome #saintsfc

@slbsn @ChapelKopArise I don’t even think it’s difficult it’s absolutely impossible. My personal feeling as a Boro fan is it had no impact whatsoever if I’m entirely truthful. Which is why it was the most idiotic thing to do from Southampton who where the form team everyone didn’t want to play

@LeeScott2509 @ChapelKopArise Lots of things that are difficult to measure are dealt with in cases like this. Commission does the best it can

🚨🤓 Southampton Spygate personal view: 1. Expect the breaches will be straightforward to establish (ie liability) and almost certainly admitted to try and get some sanction credit/discount 2. Expect aggravating factors such as other examples of Soton spying this year to be raised 3. Fundamental question of how serious a breach of rule 127 and good faith is will be key. We know good faith alone was £200k in the Leeds case. The new rule makes it worse and spying obviously seeks a sporting advantage - why else do it? So that does point to sporting sanction of some sort 4. Being thrown out of the Play Offs appears excessive especially given Southampton finished 7 points clear of 6th and 9 clear of 7th 5. A 3-0 in the first leg would have been an option again excessive retrospectively unless 2nd leg re-playable (not feasible) 6. More likely sanction is points deduction next season in the Championship as much as that won't help Middlesboro 7. Unlikely that the PL will take a points deduction recommendation from the EFL (no fixed rule) - doubt EFL will push for it, so would apply in first season back in Championship (when and if) 8. My best guess is SIX EFL points in first season in EFL and £500k-£1m fine 9. Boro compensation claim can be dealt with separately subject to any claim brought by Boro - difficult claim to establish due to causation issues

@ChapelKopArise @slbsn Stat 1 Southampton previous game without spying lost 4-0 Stat 2 Southampton game with spying 0-0 Stat 3 11 corners perfectly defended In reality it’s immeasurable to know if you did or didn’t get an advantage really

@slbsn Point 6. Why should the punishment for us, which is for breaching EFL rules, benefit Middlesbrough? Any argument of “we were impacted as a result” could easily be countered with “well, here’s the stats from the game. Certainly doesn’t look like you were”.

@Danwulfe @upthesaints And behind trees

@upthesaints Integrity. Like all the media leaks... We've done bloody well to keep our cards to our chest and just do the talking on the pitch.

Boro asking for 'integrity' after all their timed media leaking, which of course started hrs before the 2nd leg. #SaintsFC

@charliewring1 Looking at how your clubs works I’d suggest two honest hardworking professionals such as; Daniel Hardman or Travis Tanner 😉

Gonna need Dragan to bring in Mike Ross. #SaintsFC

@saintbannerman So let me get this right. You didn’t lose in the game you cheated in those are your words. Then won in the game you where clean meaning the no loss in game one becomes vital But you can’t see the advantage…. Seems legit

Drew 0.0 away in the game we 'cheated' in. (Just a pic with a kid with a phone, no proof he was 'sent' by #saintsfc & no proof he videoed or took a photo) Won the game at home 2.1 in the game we didnt 'cheat' in. But, we should be expelled for gaining an advantage? Seems legit.

@jackbuchanan151 Very poor tweet two wrongs don’t make a right unfortunately that side of football fans is what spoils it. from a Boro fan

what a normal level headed thing to think, classic #boro scruff proper sick in the head

@Sfc_debs If he can’t focus his players for one of biggest games in world football after 12 days off he must be the most uninspiring blokes ever. Also calls to question how does he handle international breaks?

Interesting to read the views of the #hcafc manager. Seems very sensible to me. The last paragraph seems to indicate he sees spygate as a fuss over nothing. I also agree that these delays are unfair on Hull and our game should go ahead #saintsfc

@_I_AM_DAN_ @Dabs06721990971 If you make Wembley and don’t go up, it’s a gentleman’s agreement that the losing team at Wembley has historically picked up any revenue which was due to be split usually around 3 million. So 500K if you went and lost still 2.5 up so not a very good deterrent is it

@Dabs06721990971 Def not £200m as some think 😂 For me it depends on the outcome of the final. If saints go up then £10M and that’s equalling the biggest fine paid in footballing history. If not then £500k Again…just my opinion

Huge fine and points deduction is enough. Boro were fired up on the 1st leg and it showed, battered saints for 60mins but couldn’t score. Supposedly better away from home. 2nd leg no cheating and lost. Expulsion doesn’t fit the crime but saints should feel ashamed

@MSymonds10 10 hour round trip for 10 minutes? How do you know it was 10 minutes from a still photo?

Think this is ridiculous now. Okay we are wrong to do it. However, there’s clubs who have done worse. A man watching a session for like 10 minutes does not determine both games. Boro should have been out of sight in the first leg it’s not the spies fault they can’t shoot.👍

@MatthewLeGod Tell me you’ve never played without telling me 😀

This the equivalent of a player doing a tackle and the opponents surrounding the ref and demanding he give a red card! Acting like that isn't allowed on the pitch, nor should it be off it. #Boro #SaintsFC

@richardajkeys It’s mainly Richie lad based around integrity, morale and cheating. Three things which I imagine are not your strong points x

Are we really suggesting Spygate in any way affected the outcome of the s/f? Behave.

@abbie_smithhh Why would they leak it? Surely just save that for the commission? When you say Boy, which I’ve seen a lot of Saints use does that soften the cheating in your head as it’s a real strange take. Allegedly 21 legal enough in UK for almost everything. Except it seems in Southampton

2 weeks on, Boro yet to leak any evidence Saints actually knew about the boy doing it…if the country haven’t realised we haven’t actually been found guilty spying yet😂 heads are gone, Boro still crying they lost

@EarleySaint1885 @Boro @EFL @ICOnews No I’ve already told you above my knowledge is limited I’m not a twitter expert. I just want you to be clear on details with hard fact Exact GDPR breach, exact false information leaked and the proof. You know the obvious stuff. Example a spy turned up you’d have like a photo 👀

@LeeScott2509 @Boro @EFL @ICOnews Have you never done GDPR training at work 😂😂😂

A statement from the club.

@AllenForSur3 I can actually smell you simply from your photo and grammar

Dirty crying northern grasses. Absolute shithole, a town riddled with poverty, benefit scrounging mongs everywhere and a fucking shit football team #saintsfc #boro

@AllenForSur3 Hi Mr Tonda Hi Fake Legal Representation Did you break the EFL rules? Yes. So you’ve cheaten? Yes. Where your club charged? Yes Did you deny it? No Case closed that will be £500 per minute thanks for your time Mr Tonda. Probably go something like that.

Could we see the possibility of Tonda and the club suing Hellberg/Boro? 🤔 This is 100% defamation of character and definitely not acting in good faith 😬 I wouldn’t want to be Hellberg when Solak’s lawyers get involved he’s gonna get fleeced 😂 #saintsfc #boro

@JoeCWard @ss2698_ @charliewring1 Or give it for free

@LeeScott2509 @ss2698_ @charliewring1 Or sell it to journalists

If they hold relevant factual evidence, and "regrets" the outcome that they are not going to be involved in the hearing, Surely they would have given that evidence to the EFL to use against us on their behalf? #SainstFC

@EarleySaint1885 @Boro @EFL @ICOnews I think we both know chief you’ve made that up and haven’t actually got a clue. Just say next time

@LeeScott2509 @Boro @EFL @ICOnews You cannot release that info. It's personal information. You have to have consent to use it for the another purpose than it was gained for, which was to buy a drink. And the only acceptable reason is part of a legal case which hasnt happened. It was shared to the Daily Mail.

@SaintRob__ Not going way wanted. Southampton Charged ✅ Matter going to a hearing ✅ Play off final in doubt ✅ It’s going terrible isn’t it x

Clearly this isn’t going the way they want. What a pathetic statement.

@ss2698_ @charliewring1 You seem to be in a perfect position to know the level of evidence, naturally clubs put all their evidence on twitter xx 😘

@charliewring1 It seems like they don’t have a lot of evidence at all the way they are going on