Levi Finkelstein

" On any task more complicated than sheer physical strength, there is no such thing as inborn talent or practice effects. Any non-retarded human could easily do as well as the top performers in every field, from golf to violin to theoretical physics. All supposed "talent differential" is unconscious social signaling of one's proper social status, linked to self-esteem. A young child sees how much respect a great violinist gets, knows she's not entitled to as much respect as that violinist, and so does badly at violin to signal cooperation with the social structure. After practicing for many years, she thinks she's signaled enough dedication to earn some more respect, and so plays the violin better. "Child prodigies" are autistic types who don't understand the unspoken rules of society and so naively use their full powers right away. They end out as social outcasts not by coincidence but as unconscious social punishment for this defection. " - Sigmund Freud

@thoth_iv What do you mean which was which? Figure out which symbol corresponds to 1 and which to 0? Is there some meaningful difference between the two in general?

Let's say you obtained an extremely long binary string. How it was generated, you are not totally sure, but maybe some kind of solomonoff induction type process. If the two symbols were not 0,1 or T,F, just two random symbols, could you figure out which was which?

@realtimeai @CineraVerinia @tenobrus Yeah that's good advice

@CineraVerinia @tenobrus Would you ever initiate a conversation with another random person for non-romantic reasons? If yes, that’s your model. If no, first become that person, and then romance will follow.

@arenaceous_ @IsaacKing314 They're also used for many others things, in this case to illustrate how hilarious it would be if people said out loud the logical conclusions of the way they thought. It's a common way of using quotes.

"51% of us voted for this outcome and this makes me gain/lose my faith in America. As opposed to if 49% of us had voted that way, in which case my conclusion would have been the exact opposite."

@_Mira___Mira_ Why would that be more g-loaded than normal tests?

Replace IQ tests with prediction markets. Not economic "markets". But "do you think X will happen?" across many Xs. "Will your friend break up with his girlfriend within 6 weeks?" "What age will you buy a first house?" "Will your friend default on the loan you gave him?"

@nickcammarata I know you're probably saying you don't understand it rhetorically, but I'll answer it anyways: it's because people care about being high status. But obviously if you care about improving you should constantly try to select into groups that are above your skill level.

@Catnee_ you can write me a slur 😘

I'm so tired, I want to write slurs and tell people to kill themselves

@__HMYS__ LANGUAGE MODELS ALREADY ARE GROUNDED!!!!!!!!! They are literally multi modal and have improved performance on text tasks from training on additional modalities. They have been observed to contain features that fire for the same concept presented in both text and image.

@nickcammarata It sucks that our brains are so hard-wired towards status games, which are largely zero-sum 😭

to whatever extent you can change your demands, life is much easier if you demand things with tons of supply like music, books, or dogs is an easier life than liking yachts or looking better than your friends

@s8mb Do you know anyone working on lab-grown human meat? I've always wanted to try, but haven't been able to find it ethically sourced.

Had the opportunity to try lab-grown salmon this weekend. Very good - texture was not quite as good as the animal-grown stuff, not enough bite, but would be perfectly good on scrambled eggs. It won’t be long until we don’t need to keep salmon around at all.

@jessi_cata @LordDreadwar not if interplanetary civilazations are somewhat sparse and there's a large first-mover advantage, then we could have weird moral systems that are not maximizer-y

@LordDreadwar @LeviFinkelstein They have pre existing motives that motivate them to develop technology and explore space, the motives that tend to explore space fastest tend to be maximizer-y

Brief argument that UFOs are not aliens: Evolution of life is randomly distributed. Space exploration could be distributed +- 100 million years or more. So there is wide distribution in time of arrival of aliens. So it's very unlikely to be recent, more likely >1M years ago.

bryan is my hero 😻

Sure! Negative IQ just corresponds to a certain percentile, easy! As for your second point, the human brain is not a Newtonian system. It exists in superposition and contains microtubules that sustain quantum coherent states influencing the information processing in the brain. I think you're making a few modelling assumptions which is why you think there's an intelligence bound on the human brain when there's not. If the brain is entangled across multiverses we can have an infinity of quantum branches computing information in Hillbert space. There's a much empirical support for this, like phosphorus nuclei in neural membranes becoming entangled affecting neural signalling + quantized vibrations in microtubules + ultraweak phton emissions in neural tissue. Happy to clarify on any points as needed.

100% of ants are stupid. I'm sure somebody could study the minute variations between ants and benchmark them relative to each other. But they're still ants. This is why "only Mira can judge Mira"! Pride in "relative success" is buying a truck of acorns and bragging to squirrels.

@jessi_cata Well it happened in star trek, I don't see why not.

@LeviFinkelstein Do you actually believe any of this shit

@jessi_cata They're not trying to enter into trade because they consider us to be unpotentiated agents so they have to wait until we develop properly develop so we have the prerequisite abilities to partake in their inter-planetary arbitration system.

@LeviFinkelstein Idk, seems like too much anthropomorphization. They could still trade etc. Humans don't have much matter to offer but they have information about distant life evolution, some trajectories are higher VOI than others.

@jessi_cata not if they're optimizing quite a bit (like humans) and they were the first movers, and they also stop civilizations from reaching a point where they would be able to overpower them even if they cared more about optimizing

@LeviFinkelstein Those ones explore space at a lower rate than optimizer ones

@jessi_cata that depends on which NAP, if they consider humans to be one tribe then they would handle arbitration within their own tribe, not enforcing arbitration inter-tribe

@LeviFinkelstein NAP allows them to defend humans from violence from other humans, or trade with humans, etc

@jessi_cata no but they're not optimizing, they have like normie virtue ethics, like "don't interfere with nature"

@LeviFinkelstein That is positive reason to interfere to improve human outcomes