Lloyd Watts

@its_eSJay @TimHowardGK you’re missing the point. By the law, that’s a goal 1. The on-field decision was goal 2. The VAR ref opinion alone in the moment has to be it’s a clear + obvious error. Not our views after the fact We see the released video. 17x rewatched, Very clear to him!

Tim Howard ex-Everton GK with some truth serum 🧠

@TFTerraceMedia @TFTerraceMedia you are categorically wrong. Whether you or anyone think it’s a foul is totally irrelevant It’s the subjective view of the referee and the VAR refs to whether it’s a goal and then a clear + obvious error 1. Ref gave the goal 2. VAR ref 17x views, “ooo, ugggh”

VAR audio proves all the “Arsenal” conspiracy theories wrong! It’s was a categorical foul……..

@Gunners4life08 @AFTVMedia Thank you

@LloydWatts147 @AFTVMedia ill let the Premier league and West ham know.

We haven't conceded a single open-play goal in the last five games! The only goal we conceded came from a penalty! The team has stepped up at the most 𝐂𝐑𝐔𝐂𝐈𝐀𝐋 stage of the season. 𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐒 𝐈𝐒 𝐖𝐇𝐀𝐓 𝐖𝐄 𝐖𝐀𝐍𝐓! 🫵

@Dan7Bow @DaleJohnsonBBC The rules

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC Who do you support?

Howard Webb says the decision to disallow West Ham's late equaliser against Arsenal was "categorically" correct. VAR audio shows the team considered other possible fouls and showed these to the referee at the monitor. Includes full VAR transcript. 👇 bbc.co.uk/sport/football…

@clockendsniper @swin_j @DaleJohnsonBBC “Possible foul” There’s your clue! I think you need to understand the meaning of clear and obvious! 17 checks and asking to pause to show the full speed clip after 10 watches already is super clear and obvious 🤣 It’s the VAR refs opinion that matters , not yours!

@LloydWatts147 @swin_j @DaleJohnsonBBC first thing on the audio from VAR litterally mentions “possible foul on the keeper” whilst the ref awards the goal so clear and obvious error as nobody doubts it was a foul on the keeper. also let me know when you find one ex ref that says they got it wrong?

@Dan7Bow @DaleJohnsonBBC You just don’t like accepting the rules! Fouls are subjective. The rule is only overturn on field Decisions when it is clear and obvious error in the view of the VAR refs. Not our view If the VAR ref said it was a foul immediately then ok. 17 rewatches + asked to keep delaying

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC I find it baffling how everyone all of a sudden is acting like football is a non contact sport, especially for corners. Who do you support? I’ll happily find dozens of clips of your team doing the same if it helps? Do you understand you can’t hold a keepers arm with your hand?

@Anapecalleddave @Funkyrob0t @DaleJohnsonBBC There was enough oooing and ahhhing with uncertain grunts and asking to view again at full speed. It was obvious it wasn’t clear and obvious to them

@Funkyrob0t @DaleJohnsonBBC @LloydWatts147 I don't think the VAR team did. They were pretty concerned about both, it was the ref who bizarrely dismissed Trossard out of hand.

@spurscc @swin_j @DaleJohnsonBBC There is uncertainty all over the place. The ref who says it’s impactful then grunts and says ughhh it’s un impactful from another angle. He then asks for more time to hire it again at full speed. Sorry mate , nothing clear and obvious to them about it

@LloydWatts147 @swin_j @DaleJohnsonBBC But if you actually listen to it when they establish that pablo grabbed raya’s arm then they all agree it’s impactful - it’s evident the other assistant var didn’t appreciate thst from the first angle, which didn’t show it

@swin_j @DaleJohnsonBBC Only legal reason to overturn a goal is clear and obvious error. The VAR refs need to think it’s clear and obvious. Our views don’t matter. You can hear his pain in voice 🤣🤣 Broke their own rules !

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC Where's your evidence that it was the wrong decision sir

@JackWFC1234 @StokeyyG2 Only allowed reason to overturn a goal is clear and obvious error. In the view of the VAR refs you can hear it was not clear and obvious to them so they shouldn’t overturn it. Some people think clear foul , some don’t. It’s clear the VAR refs were unsure

@StokeyyG2 Can someone please explain to me why this is the wrong decision? Is it because of the actions of Declan Rice? Because as far as I’m concerned that’s a clear foul on David Raya

@centregoals @centregoals webbs view is irrelevant. The uncertainty of the VAR refs in the moment are relevant to it being clear and obvious

🚨🚨🎙️| NEW: Howard Webb says the correct decision was made to disallow West Ham’s late equaliser against Arsenal due to a “clear and obvious” foul on David Raya. “So, is it a foul on the goalkeeper? Categorically, yes.” Webb added that if a goalkeeper is impeded from doing their job by being grabbed or held, it will be penalised. 👀 [@premierleague]

@Hucklegooner @DaleJohnsonBBC After you spotted it on the first replay, you made noises oooo ahhh ughhh , and suggest it’s not impact contact after the first replay. And you then ask for a further delay. Were you convinced? VAR ref - no you’re honor Case closed !

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC Not in a court of law though, they have a conversation and on field ref makes final decision It was a foul, it was clear and obvious as they SPOTTED IT ON FIRST REPLAY

@Hucklegooner @DaleJohnsonBBC In a court of law , those indecisive noises are a slam dunk of uncertainty. Whether it’s a foul in most people’s opinion is totally irrelevant. It’s wasn’t 100% clear and obvious to him , so the on field decision should never have been changed

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC He can make any noises he likes, it’s not his decision. They should get involved as RAYA IS HAVING HIS ARM PULLED!!!!!

@Hucklegooner @DaleJohnsonBBC Everyone accept the only person who actually matters. VAR refs in the booth unfortunately are the only opinion that matters. Had he said , yeah that’s a clear foul , then there would be no issue. But he didn’t

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC Which there was, there is categorically a foul on raya, everyone agrees that he’s holding his arm which is a foul, end of story

@Hucklegooner @DaleJohnsonBBC That’s why they check all the angles. A clear foul from one angle is not from another. It’s all weighed up. You can hear him doubt himself after the first clip. You’re not fooling anyone!

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC You’re disregarding the fact they spotted the foul in the first replay, which is why they brought the review, which is clear and obvious

@Hucklegooner @DaleJohnsonBBC So why is the VAR ref making painful uncertainty noises the whole review and checking 17 times ?! 🤣🤣 You’re not making any sense! You just want it to be a clear foul when that’s not the debate here! It’s whether the Ref should intervene when they are showing clear doubt

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC If you don’t think seeing a foul in the first replay isn’t clear and obvious then you’re are the dishonest one The VAR refs don’t need to be sure, the ref on the pitch does, he makes the final decision

@darren_od80 @DaleJohnsonBBC The referee only saw a clip of the holding near the keeper. The ref didn’t see the holding from start of a pen would have been awarded obviously

@LloydWatts147 @DaleJohnsonBBC How they can say Trossards actions were minor in this incident is ludicrous. x.com/i/status/20540…