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@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 Things didn't pop out of blue skies. The details and fine tuning of the universe points to a higher being semantically known as God. You can call of what you want. Existence is a proof that something higher exist and by definition the concept God is the closest.

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 Existence is the thing to be explained, not proof of a specific explanation. You still need to show why existence points to God rather than any other cause. How are you establishing that link?

Atheism is a strange thing. Even Satan has never fallen for that lie.

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 Existence is the evidence of what? If you make a claim substantiate it. If existence isn't a proof? What is existence? Since we wanna answer questions with questions

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 Pointing at existence isn’t evidence of God, it’s the thing to be explained. How do you show God is the explanation rather than just assuming it?

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 This is all semantics and an attempt to reword your question. It's futile. I asked you to show a reason why you believe her belief in the existence of Satan is false and you are asking me same questions 😭 Does good and evil exist?

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 My basis is lack of evidence. I’m not claiming Satan exists or doesn’t, I’m saying there’s no good reason to believe he does. Why do you think he exists?

@gunsmoke317 @KR3Wmatic So you want a proof of god that isn't tied to faith? Where do you want to benchmark that proof? The idea of god is a concept tied to faith. Except you wanna redefine god and remove every idea that links it's to faith

The same proof that god exists Nothing Although the existence of, throughout history, hundreds of different gods, different religions, and schism after schism after schism is a strong indication that NONE of them truly speak for an ACTUAL god God either exists or doesn’t; 50%-50% probability Of the 50% probability god DOES exist, it’s 1/3 chance god intentionally withholds proof of god’s existence, 1/3 chance there is such proof but mankind simply cannot discern it, and 1/3 chance god doesn’t care enough to provide proof of god’s existence In any case, “faith” is a pretty sloppy way to run a universe

Genesis 1:26: “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…” Who is "Us" in Genesis 1:26?

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 I'm not trying to convince you. In only asking what's the basis on which you doubt the existence or inexistence of Satan. Is that a tough call

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 That’s a false binary. I’m not claiming Satan exists or doesn’t, I’m saying you haven’t provided evidence that he does. You’re making the claim, so the burden is on you. What evidence do you have? Im super interested if you can convince me.

God abeg na. I want them already

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 The world. You are an evidence. Your existence. Or did you come as a result of the big bang and evolution?

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 I don’t know if God exists,that’s the point. I’m not convinced because I haven’t seen sufficient evidence that stands up to scrutiny. I’m open to being convinced, but you haven’t provided any. So what evidence do you have?

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 I only flipped your question back to you. or does Satan not exist? It yes proof. If no, proof.

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 Calm down one post at a time please. You’re misunderstanding how claims work. I didn’t claim Satan doesn’t exist, I pointed out shes assuming he does. She was making the claim, so the burden is on her/you. What evidence do you have that Satan exists?

@gunsmoke317 @KR3Wmatic The word fascious doesn't seem to exist in as an English lexicon. What is your proof that man invented the concept of God?

@LordGrantt @KR3Wmatic I was being fascious However, I believe it is entirely likely that man invented the concept of god, rather than that god created man

@SamdGreat01 My degree in Linguistics and the fact that the human mouth is designed in a way that is so intricate scientifically points to a creator. If you have a missing 🦷 can't produce some sounds accurately. This design isn't from any big bang

Interestingly, many atheist scientists who converted did so based on the basis of the scientific evidences they found Physicists, Chemists, Biologists, many more The saw evidences for the expansion of the universe, the fine tuning, genetic codes, and many more Purely science

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 I have 'conceded' as there cannot be physical evidence to back up spirituality. I am asking you, does God exist?

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 I’m not claiming God doesn’t exist, I’m rejecting your claim due to lack of evidence. You’re making the claim, so the burden is on you. Where’s the evidence? If I’m not convinced unicorns exist, do I need to disprove them, or do you need to prove them?

@HunnMista95583 @PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 There is a transliteration there. If it's wrong, your scholars would reject it

@LordGrantt @PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 Also, the verse is not in English.

In Islam, a man is permitted to marry his own daughter. Listen to this.

@HunnMista95583 @PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 How does Islam treat a child born outside wedlock? That's the starting point. What the Islamic ruling on adultery?

@LordGrantt @PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 Ok, let's go by your understanding. How the hell does someone have a daughter and not have consummated with her mother? Listen, man, let's not argue about this; you have the verse infront of you and it's obvious what "but" is applying to

@jsrackers @DavidFischer Nope. People know what they are doing.

@DavidFischer All it means is to turn from sin. People need it to be made simple.

People really don’t like the word repent do they? It explains ALOT.

@gunsmoke317 @KR3Wmatic Read it slowly 😁 Do you have the manuscripts of the Torah and New testament writings? Can you show that in translation it was changed to 'gods' to 'man'?

@LordGrantt @KR3Wmatic You want to try it again? Maybe coherently this time?

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 Again, if for the sake of argument I concede that a creator doesn't exist. The Concept of God is false. I'm applying the same standards to you. What is your argument against the existence of God Avoid circular reasoning.

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 You’re shifting the burden instead of supporting your claim. I don’t need evidence against an unsupported claim🤦 you’re the one asserting a creator exists. Why should anyone accept it without evidence? And you still haven’t supported your earlier spiritual claims.

@Psalm137_9 @TheresaArueyin1 I have asked you for your evidence against since it seems like my statement that spirituality cannot be rationalized seem a little problematic for you to deal with. What your evidence against the existence of a creator? It's a simple question

@LordGrantt @TheresaArueyin1 Then you’re admitting you have no way to distinguish your belief as true over other religions or natural explanations. If you want to move to other arguments we can, but the burden is still on you to provide evidence for God, since you’re making the claim.

@HunnMista95583 @PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 English lesson 101, anything after a but automatically negates or disagrees with all the was previously said or written.

@PhilipMkoroma @Edenlife9 Are you asking about the "but" in "if you have consummated marriage with your mothers—but if you have not," or have you misunderstood what the "but" is referring to and thought it made an exception for marrying daughters and others mentioned?