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@MichaelPer2144 @Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC Thank you.

@LucaPqt @Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC I have found these type of people keep arguing in circles. I am pretty sure they are bad faith at this point

The SSPX Superior General argues that the July consecrations are not a rebellion. They are preservation. Rome lifted the excommunications in 2009 but never revisited the schism. Those who tore the tunic of Christ broke with Tradition. The SSPX is stitching it back. I don't see why excommunication is necessary. Do you? fsspx.news/en/news/who-te…

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC Stop bitching.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC AND YOU have the guts to say your not usurping the pope's power when you directly taking on his authority Conscience, ok I will check what pius ix taught about freedom of conscience in matters of faith Your schismatics July first will only make it clear

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC You could just say "oh ok you don’t want to leave the Church, you recognise the Pope as you visible leader, you have the Catholic doctrine, that’s fair." No. Instead you’re just bitching online, making fallacious arguments about out-of-context quotes.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Who gets to decide if they're is a state of emergency in the church or not Sppx or the Roman see Your answer closes the debate

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC Normally, it is the Church's authority that judges. But in a situation of concrete necessity, Catholic tradition recognizes that the one who acts must judge according to conscience and the principles of the Church. Indeed the debate is closed.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Who gets to judge what's a case of necessity and what's not in the church You, sppx or the pope Your answer will close the debate

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC 2) The SSPX recognizes the Pope but invokes a state of necessity for certain actions. The question, therefore, is whether this state of necessity is real, not to draw an automatic analogy.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Pius Adressed that The neo schismatics call themselves catholic and say they under the pope yet they don't obey him Notice that's what sppx is doing regarding ordinations

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC 1) Tu compares deux situations qui ne sont pas identiques. Pie IX parle de groupes qui rejettent concrètement l’autorité de l’Église tout en se disant catholiques.

@Swiss_Snoopy @VincentL83110 @TonyTruant01 Pourtant on a bien des vidéos de l’IDF qui ouvre le feu sur des femmes et des enfants dans la rue, difficile de croire en "un dommage collatéral"

@LucaPqt @VincentL83110 @TonyTruant01 Non, y a pas eu de génocide à Gaza. Mais forcément, quand le Hamas se cache parmi la population civile dans un des pays les plus denséement peuplé au monde, il y aura beaucoup de victimes.

🇨🇭💥 BRAVO LA SUISSE ! Le Parlement vient de botter le cul à la reconnaissance hâtive de ce « État » palestinien fantoche. 116-66 : la raison triomphe de la folie woke et des lobbies qui veulent récompenser le terrorisme du 7 octobre. On ne donne pas un drapeau à des barbares qui dansent sur les cadavres. On ne plie pas devant la pression internationale des bien-pensants qui hurlent « Free Palestine » en brûlant nos valeurs. La Suisse reste fidèle à sa vraie neutralité : ni soumise, ni naïve. Souveraineté d’abord. Vérité avant vertu signalée. Pendant que l’Europe se suicide en s’agenouillant, la Confédération dit NON à la capitulation. Qui d’autre aura les couilles de suivre ? 🔥 swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-demo… #SuisseSouveraine #PasDePrixPourLeTerrorisme #RealiteAvantIdeologie

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC “Your text assumes that excommunication is necessarily just and applicable without exception. But, canon law recognizes cases of necessity where the obligation can be suspended. The real question is not ‘must one obey?’, but ‘does the situation constitute a case of necessity?’”

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Only the pope gets to decide what is the state of necessity in the church not individual. Bishops State of necessity.. Pope pius called that unheard of and a novelty

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC I’m done

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC We talking about schism Disobeying the pope about ordinations Dmt make it look like it's about a casual no to the pope

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC Strawmanning. You’re just mixing up two very different situations. confusing concordance and causality. We did not disobey the Pope since he did not forbid it; plus there was a state of necessity since some bishops had died and the others were old.

Wrong He was talking to them coz they belived in him as bishop of Rome but disobeyed him That's why he called them neo schismatics as sppx is They claimed that they are disobeying the pope out of fidelity to tradition They claimed people will not receive the sacraments if they don't hv Bishops ordained All these are sppx arguments and the pope refuted them

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC 2) I don’t have to follow blindely what the pope said a random tuesday morning. That’s absurd. If the pope says it’s good to pray with protestants I won’t do it. And that’s a duty we have as catholics to do so.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC That's literally pope pius ix speaking in quartus supra

@theoscholastica You are putting a limit on his gentleness and his love. He doesn’t have any limit in such virtues. It’s actually a blasphemy (I don’t say that in a judging manner tho, I’m trying to help you) God bless you

I don’t think God loves me anymore

@CatholicSOTC If she’s not happy she can go back to the kitchen where she belongs.

Anglican “archbishop” Sarah Mullally claims Catholic teaching on women’s ordination is “injustice” after Pope Leo meeting. signofthecrossmedia.com/news/female-an…

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC So now people just invent new canon laws out of thin air. Got it !

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Whoever the Roman pontiff judges to be schismatics is schismatic* Quartus supra

@MarkTezak No one’s leaving, it’s not 1988 Anymore. Our beloved Church is falling appart, we’re the last rempart. Tradition will prevail.

If they think they are going to get a lot of defections from the True Catholic Faith, they are mistaken

@CatholicSOTC It’s never too late to declare war on satanism.

UNPRECEDENTED ATTACK on the family — German socialist youth call for abolition of marriage. lifesitenews.com/news/young-ger…

@Emma506131772 @McBrideLawNYC I will. Because there isn’t.

@LucaPqt @McBrideLawNYC Yes I can't wait to hear you say there's no schism

@tribuchretienne They Said the problem is SSPX

🔴Californie : 13 paroisses sont simultanément fermées dans le diocèse d’Oakland ⚡️C'est une décision rare par son ampleur qui touche l’Église catholique dans la baie de San Francisco