@LeoneStan1 @sugaford1 If a motorcycle ground to a stop by slamming on the brakes and having the rear wheel lift up or something, no one would call that an Akira slide, it pretty clearly is its own thing
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Luke Swiatek
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@LeoneStan1 @sugaford1 You’re telling on yourself here because if you had to define the image on the left with one qualifier it would be “two people punching each other at the same time, from the opposite arms” and the two on the right are clearly with the same arms (i.e. both using their right)
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@prettyboyhass @PlayoffBoundNYK It was much worse in the Toronto series specifically too
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Big Biid FC will look you dead in the face and tell you this wasn’t enough to sniff a conference finals appearance
Dr. Marmaduke, CPA@DrMarmadukeNBA
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@azuremurkrow @Statholesports That would’ve been my guess too, I was hoping the answer was still Wilt though ngl
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@den_shorts Not that that’s rational of course, I’m just saying it’ll happen. Already does with situations like Harden having CP3/Dwight, Embiid having Harden/Butler, Luka with Brunson/Porzingis. Weirdly retroactively applying people’s peaks as if they were always that
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@den_shorts Mentally prepare yourself now for the revisionist history when reviewing Jokic’s career, people are gonna say “he had an 8+ year prime with an All-NBA player next to him every year”
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Jamal Murray is pretty comfortably 2nd team All-NBA at this point.
Pretty impossible to argue against it.
There haven’t been 10 eligible players better than him this year.
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@den_shorts Assists are an overrated stat =/= playmaking is an overrated skill.
Like steals are a (much) more overrated stat - Harden has lead the league in em and tho he aint as bad on D as he’s been made out to be, he sure ain’t #1 - but that doesn’t mean perimeter defense don’t matter
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Real people on this app are saying assist totals are an overrated stat. Like genuinely saying assists don’t matter.
OK, if that’s the case then LeBron is probably the fifth best player ever. Because half of his value is how well he is able to pass and set up his teammates. If that doesn’t matter then what are we even talking about.
Oh, and Magic Johnson is probably a top 25 player max if you take away his passing.
It is probably the biggest separator between a good basketball player that can score and an all-time great who can score and also set up his teammates at any given point.
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@RossUglem Yet if any of you asked about any of these team’s particular strengths, people would probably not list CB in the first 3 position groups. Championship winning teams just tend to be pretty elite across the board
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last three super bowl winners
d. witherspoon - elite
t woolen - good
jobe - average
q. mitchell - elite
c. dejean - elite
d. slay - good
t. mcduffie - elite
sneed - very good
i. watson - good
Brett Kollmann@BrettKollmann
Workshopping a new take that corners are basically the running backs of defense. In a vacuum, sure it's awesome to have an elite guy. But so much of their success is so dependent on what the other 10 guys are doing that I see them more as finishing pieces than the foundation.
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@hawkblogger @BrettKollmann I’d think it’s the opposite on the first point. RBs come in and seem already close to their peaks usually, and if anything I think ILBs develop slower than any other position. You can plug a mid round RB as a starter in without too much issue but LBs take YEARS til they’re decent
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@BrettKollmann I’ve always seen ILB as the RBs of defense.
- Can be impactful in year 1
- Less valued in the market
- Huge gap between the truly elite and next tier
- Similar athletic traits required (vision, sorting through the mess, etc)
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Workshopping a new take that corners are basically the running backs of defense.
In a vacuum, sure it's awesome to have an elite guy. But so much of their success is so dependent on what the other 10 guys are doing that I see them more as finishing pieces than the foundation.
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@JoestarJokic People def came for Sabonis for the same thing a few years ago
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He was ahead of his time
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@automaticnba @LegendOfWinning Like they both might end up in decent shot quality, but the first one was more a product of the pass whereas the second one is more the product of the player receiving it making some nice moves, like in the vid
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@automaticnba @LegendOfWinning Would there be any way to find the time lag between the pass and the actual shot attempt? Or maybe dribbles taken? I feel like a nice drive and kick that ends in a fairly open shot with a decent close out, and a perimeter swing that ends with your teammate taking 3 dribbles r dif
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People are finally starting to realize that an assist is the worst stat in basketball.
Jokic is getting a bunch of John Stockton assists and I’m not moved
Benj@DebriefSportif
Je me réveille, je vois que Jokic a fait 19 PASSES DECISIVES pour UNE SEULE BALLE PERDUE. Alors je les regarde... Sérieux faut que la NBA arrête de se foutre de la gueule du monde sur le comptage des passes décisives. Pour la NBA, ces actions sont des passes décisives.
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In conclusion, there has not been an MVP since Bob Petit for whom team record mattered LESS in winning MVP. “Stolen/pity” MVP indeed…
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Interesting claim! Let’s see every MVP winner of the last 35 years whose team was not the 1 or 2 seed in their conference.
The Lakers Daddy@NugsGetBuckets
The Nuggets were 1st in the West when Jokic had his MVP stolen by Embiid… Why does the MVP now go to the “best teams best player” for everyone but Jokic???
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@Jared_NFLDraft Moehrig (and to a lesser extent our two CBs) were the only ones that ever really popped last year. You felt his presence often. Not to mention they used him as a safety, LB, slot/star, even edge, all because he was somehow our best option at each spot. Moving on would be asinine
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A lot of overthinking when it comes to Tre’von Moehrig, where some fans have suggested drafting a safety to replace him + save money.
Regardless, no, absolutely not. Moehrig is easily a top defender on the #Panthers defense and what he does…he does at a fairly great level.
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