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@GhollowayMA94 @svyraweb This right here. A lot of people have fantasies they would never actually do. Actions are what matters not thoughts in a head.

@MarsBattleKing @svyraweb Many think high-risk sexual fantasies (e.g., rape, lolicon/shotacon) reflect what the person wants IRL, but that belief is not supported by research. Porn is not the issue; the person is. How they think/feel, their beliefs, and their personality matter more than the porn itself.

mimi defenders: if you’re so for “protecting the children” why does it take a real life child being touched for you to actually notice? if someone is into drawing children in suggestive manners, when does the line get drawn between it becoming a risk for children?

I would love to go into a Twitter Spaces with you sometime and have us hash this out. I think we both agree on protecting kids. I just don’t believe in punching people when they’re not hurting someone. As I said, before consenting adults are drying, I don’t care what they do. Touch a kid they can get the electric chair. It’s that simple.

@MarsBattleKing yeah and ur just as fucked goodbye

Once again can we agree but no real kids are involved. If there were real kids or minors involved, I would agree with you. Do I think what she’s doing is gross yes but not illegal. When adults being the only ones involved, I don’t care what fantasy they play out. I don’t care what things they have as long as they do it with consenting adults. And that is what is happening. It is adults engaged in consenting activity.

@MarsBattleKing when it involves you making a whole character inspired by a child posting urself in binkys and child’s clothes and then also making art of you getting fucked by men and dogs . yes yes i do. sorry im against fucking kids and animals gollyyy

@svyraweb You need to point out a victim for there to be harm. Her audience is adults she is an adult is the piece of paper she drawing on the victim? There is no harm because there is no real minor involved. Do you believe we should outlaw what people do in the bedroom between adults?

@MarsBattleKing well no because by ur terms it’s not real because it’s a fictional roleplay and the person “isn’t attracted to the minor because the person they’re talking to is roleplaying as a “19 year old fairy girl” or sum shit. if ur imitating a child and then drawing porn .. that’s harm

@svyraweb Grooming is a completely different thing. If we’re talking purely about the drawings no one is getting hurt. Grooming a minor is illegal. If two consenting adult wanna have a daddy little girl fantasy that’s legal because it’s fictional and there’s no real minor involved.

@MarsBattleKing again , real children are victim in this. like i said clearly it takes it being physical for you to be aware. you do realize grooming can happen through text while role playing ? but because it’s “fiction” you wouldn’t say it’s grooming.

@svyraweb No I only care if there is a victim. I don’t believe in thought crime.

@MarsBattleKing so you only care about victims until they’re actively physically violated.. right

BREAKING NEWS: Mimi the VTuber that got arrested for artwork in the UK had her bail bond revealed by her Friend From the details and comments provided by said friend. It seems she was arrested for her art commissions and the artwork is being treated like a real kid by the UK Government according to page 4. If this is indeed Mimi's Bail Bond. The UK is actually thinking drawings are living breathing humans I would also remind everyone that the UK is actively allowing rape gangs to roam free in their country.

@JackPearl77 @pomxpom5 She was arrested for something that harms no one and is protected speech even if it is disgusting. The UK would rather arrest someone for drawings then arrest foreigners raping kids.

@MarsBattleKing @pomxpom5 None of that is why she was arrested. She drew her extremely child like, paci sucking avatar getting railed by a dog. And posted it in a Discord.

Okay I saw that British vtuber that got arrested for art she herself made. And I saw the backpack that was used in one of the pieces. That backpack alone that is exclusively used by elementary school students is enough for me: ick. Please stop and think.

@BaboonSlayer122 @Invictus_227 Dude I’m not even a lolicon. I’m just defending free speech rights.

@MarsBattleKing @Invictus_227 Bro loves his drawings of naked children

The First Amendment is the most prescient and important sentence in political history, and every country where it doesn't apply is worse off for that lack A government can never be allowed to arrest people for speech or art, no matter how distasteful. It's simply too much power

I want to make a long statement here on the events about the VTuber Mimi that got arrested for artwork You can find the artwork that got her into trouble disgusting and outright weird. I have always had this stance on content. However advocating for the censorship of it is another matter since its fictional. Having someone's life ruined over drawings that isn't a living breathing person is a terrible situation that many are neglecting to realize. If we look at what happened to Mimi as an example for things to come. That means any adult or suggestive content will get you into trouble within the UK "United Kingdom". Which will stretch beyond the icky content you dislike The reason I have come to this conclusion is because if we look at the bail requirements she stated herself. Any form of Adult content she makes will result in her being thrown in jail. This statement is very scary for one big reason. It indicates that even if she did vanilla adult artwork with a tall woman, she would still break her bail requirements. Which means the Government officials within the UK have a serious issue with any adult content that is drawn online. On top of this Mimi's friend revealed all her anime merchandise was seized by the Police. Meaning even owning regular manga, figurines, and anime will be taken by the Government. We already have examples of the Government within the UK censoring speech and expression. One good example is that they had a whole propaganda game made saying you'll get a criminal record for posting an anime meme. There's been footage of UK police going to a Grandma's house to scare her for a post she made on Facebook about her views on politics. There's also been ads being played within the UK doing something similar like the Propaganda game to scare you from posting memes. Then we got the UK going after sibling content within fiction, but refusing to ban "REAL" cousin marriage within the UK. This means even Game of Thrones would likely be banned thanks to these rules. Now we circle back around to Mimi and her situation. There's actual rape gangs roaming within the UK that they refuse to handle. However they are spending precious resources targeting and ruining the life of a VTuber posting artwork. There's been a ton of Artists and even VTubers cheering this situation on and not realizing the cliff that stands before them. We all have seen in the last year what censorship has been doing to the internet with Digital ID, Age Verification, Collective Shout, and more. The fact there's still UK citizens cheering this on reveals just how bad the situation is right now Some of the most popular VTubers of all time are Lolicons or Shotacons. This means they will be arrested if these laws continue to spread around the world. A year ago the UK introduced forced Digital ID and it caused waves where almost every country in the West followed its example. What makes you think what happened to Mimi will just stop at her? So in closing, if we assume everything is accurate about Mimi's situation. The reality is that VTubers will start getting arrested in the future, along with artists.

I don’t defend sin. I defend the right to choose to sin. Do you know the difference between God‘s plan and Lucifer‘s? God gave us the ability to choose and have agency, whereas Lucifer would force us to choose right every time. Being forced to do the right thing is worse than having the option to do the wrong thing.

@MarsBattleKing Libertarianism is a joke and the so-called 'Christians' should be ashamed to be defending sin. Porn harms people.

you cannot be a Christian and willingly make NSFW

@Starrtoon Interesting take. I take a much more libertarian stance on issues and believe we have the agency from God to do right or wrong and can choose what we do so long as we are not actively harming others or inflicting upon there’s rights.

@MarsBattleKing I didn't mention legality, but yeah I extremely disagree. Porn should be illegal 100%

CP requires a child involved. There’s no child involved only fictional characters. I don’t need to agree with something morally to think it shouldn’t be illegal. I don’t agree with Nazis, but it doesn’t mean I don’t believe they have free speech rights. The same is true with artists who draw loli content.

@MarsBattleKing @Invictus_227 You *are* defending CP though, it's sexual content of a child, doesn't matter if "there's no real person so it's okay" it's normalising CP, do you think it's a good idea to normalise CP?

@Starrtoon Never said it wasn’t. Just because something is a sin doesn’t means it should be illegal.

@MarsBattleKing Porn is a sin

@RealGamingInc1 @Foxman671 If someone doesn’t go to the police, it’s not a crime. I will never believe someone who claims something happened if there is not a police report at minimum.

@MarsBattleKing @Foxman671 That’s cause 70% of those cases never get reported feel free to look it up

I'm not blurring the line at all mate. I'm not going to sit here and tolerate someone calling loli CSAM. That's why they got blocked. it's not, it never has been, and calling it such hurts real victims. If you look at this and see a real kid, that's a you problem.

@RealGamingInc1 @hanzhateyou24 @Foxman671 Advocating for kids is the same logic why half the internet needs IDs now. If no people are being harmed it shouldn’t be a crime.

@hanzhateyou24 @MarsBattleKing @Foxman671 Sry but selective stupidity dosnt work when we are talking about children can promise you the ppl advocating for this to be allowed don’t have kids and don’t see the danger this posses

@RealGamingInc1 @Foxman671 Look at Japan they have the lowest sex crime rates and they don’t outlaw it

@MarsBattleKing @Foxman671 And once they have desensitized themselves far enough we’re do you think they will go

@MariaGraceVT Abortion was always meant to be a eugentics program

They're pro "choice" until a mother makes the choice to keep and love a disabled child. This is just thinly veiled eugenics.

@EndIntermission @Thunder_Vtuber Not even close. Fictional drawings are under free speech even if I think they are disgusting

@MarsBattleKing @Thunder_Vtuber One of them is just speech the other is promoting a fetish of raping children 💀

Look, I was guilty of just "oh someone arrested for art" and not looking into it Yall... this is not someone to defend. This is wrong in so many ways. Icky yucky no thank you