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@MasuMioshi
Variety Vtuber and VRChat streamer. Enjoyer of socializing. Partnered with @NarakaTheGame , and @FirstDescendant https://t.co/ehT2xmJKWT
The World Katılım Temmuz 2020
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@emceekhan I can agree, I just worded everything that way because that’s how the majority of the people freaking out over it are thinking. They don’t care what kind of AI was used, just that “Omg they used AI, fuck them.”
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Again, we need to punch the AI bros who rebranded automation as AI, because then everyone's like, "Everyone's using AI, man," when it's actually a 1990s concept of automating things to improve performance.
Gen AI is the problem. Not automatuon.
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X uses AI, but you still use it. Facebook uses AI, but you still use it. Instagram and Tiktok is flooded with AI videos, but you still use them. Caseoh plays cheap fun horror games that used AI to make and even has AI voices, but you still enjoy watching it be played. A lot of you would quickly start liking AI if all your favorite content creators said to. The game has amazing beautiful areas not made with AI to see and enjoy made by real people, but so many of you are too focused on the little bit of AI you don’t ever have to see if you don’t want to, and the parts you would end up seeing they are willing to replace with something real. I do commend yall for speaking up on the AI and being the reason they are going to change it, let’s have them change more. It is a love service game after all. But as you can see they are actually listening ( unlike the opposite for ToF) so stop attacking them.
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@MasuMioshi Well, my PC is also a Toshiba laptop from 2013, and I haven't turned it on since 2022, lol.
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X uses AI, but you still use it.
Facebook uses AI, but you still use it.
Instagram and Tiktok is flooded with AI videos, but you still use them.
Caseoh plays cheap fun horror games that used AI to make and even has AI voices, but you still enjoy watching it be played.
A lot of you would quickly start liking AI if all your favorite content creators said to.
The game has amazing beautiful areas not made with AI to see and enjoy made by real people, but so many of you are too focused on the little bit of AI you don’t ever have to see if you don’t want to, and the parts you would end up seeing they are willing to replace with something real.
I do commend yall for speaking up on the AI and being the reason they are going to change it, let’s have them change more. It is a love service game after all.
But as you can see they are actually listening ( unlike the opposite for ToF) so stop attacking them.
NTE Global@NTE_GL
Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team
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Fair. I’m mostly against how the backlash was being done. It could have been done more sensible and reasonable.
I’m not the most fond of Hotta, specially because of how they handled ToF and also telling me every issue, that I wasn’t the only one ever dealing with, was a me issue and all was perfect on their end ( when we all know it wasn’t.)
Which is why I’m heavily playing this game casually ( as in not caring to get every character, and not completing current story in a week or less.)
But I do hope they do learn from their mistakes, and again I feel this whole situation could have been gone about more calmly.
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@MasuMioshi And praying for change that never came. Instead it just got progressively worse.
If NTE is launching under heavy criticism, knowing how Hotta approaches it, I simply don't have faith in them doing the right thing by the players... at least not for long.
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It's the same team Honey, and we've seen this play before.
They're going to damage control and soothe the playerbase, and then within the next 2 months, anyone with common sense is going to realize how badly they're butchering this game like every other IP they've touched.
Mioshi@MasuMioshi
X uses AI, but you still use it. Facebook uses AI, but you still use it. Instagram and Tiktok is flooded with AI videos, but you still use them. Caseoh plays cheap fun horror games that used AI to make and even has AI voices, but you still enjoy watching it be played. A lot of you would quickly start liking AI if all your favorite content creators said to. The game has amazing beautiful areas not made with AI to see and enjoy made by real people, but so many of you are too focused on the little bit of AI you don’t ever have to see if you don’t want to, and the parts you would end up seeing they are willing to replace with something real. I do commend yall for speaking up on the AI and being the reason they are going to change it, let’s have them change more. It is a love service game after all. But as you can see they are actually listening ( unlike the opposite for ToF) so stop attacking them.
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Dang it was just a talk? So no way to show if it’s true or not? Evidence always helps issues be less divided imo, because this has been a bit overboard. And I mean that as everyone else joining in. Makes sense for her to be upset if she was lied to and if others were too, but as for someone like me who wasn’t aware; I don’t feel lied to thus am not too bothered by it all.
All in all I’m glad they are starting to get rid of the AI and hope they keep doing so, despite if I haven’t noticed any yet or not lol.
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@MasuMioshi The way I see it, they had an initial talk to Mouses team and they said mouse would probably like that and then in the second talk the ai stuff was brought up and they said there’s no ai and then mouse or her team did some looking into it and found there was even if minor
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@Yukimikka Is this clause in the contract allowed to be shown? I feel it would be if they violated their own contract no? I honestly don’t know.
Would be nice to see if she allowed to show where they said it.
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@MasuMioshi no, the problem rooted to "they lie in the contract"
something like "we not use AI" but "actually we did"
the team noticed something in the contract which shattered the trust
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@WolvenWolfdog Exactly. It’s a live service game. Voice your complaints and change suggestions for sure so the game can improve, but don’t start making threats and other outlandish things over it.
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@MasuMioshi If there were tons outside of the less important parts of the game, sure, but since it was little, and they focus on important aspects, it was fine since they can replace it with actual human made stuff later on once they got what's worth.
I see no ill intent when they did it
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@WolvenWolfdog A gacha game where banner characters are guaranteed at pity every time, and already has multiple alternative outfits, and so many nice things too.
Sadly there are many people like that in the world these days. The small negatives always outweigh the large positives for them.
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@MasuMioshi It's impressive that people managed to ignore what the team made by themselves, since it's a huge step up from TOF graphics wise.
I wish people were a bit rational and not panic at something like this, it was pretty sad, hopefully it gets better from here on out
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@WolvenWolfdog Same. I even climbed on the billboard people were raging about and I thought “ this was that big of an issue?”
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@MasuMioshi Never noticed the AI till it was mentioned days ago, even with that, I enjoyed Baicang's quest, the one with Renee, it looked human made to me, and it was unique experience.
I never minded the generated AI, sure it was concerning, few? Yeah but I know it will be replaced.
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@MasuMioshi Cant they jus add a "disable ai art" then removing it for everyone jus because ai extremist are attacking em
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@MasuMioshi I’ll keep saying it, it’s coz they lied, mouse has dealt with enough lying and just wants honest answers it’s that simple and fair to me.
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You know, that is actually not a bad idea at all and I am sure they can do that. Group all the AI assets in a specific file section and code a function where if turned off causes all the AI stuff to just not be there. Then stuff will reappear over time as they replace the AI stuff with real stuff.
I like that.
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@LargMetalicFelo Quite an understandable reason. If it does ease your mind though, The game runs better on my PC than Tower of Fantasy does.
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@MasuMioshi That's a good point. I don't like AI completely replacing people but as a tool AI has its uses. And at least the devs are listening & fixing those issues. But, I already have too many games on my phone and don't have a good PC for it, so I don't care about this issue in general.
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@Lancaster_1899 Just gotta focus on what was actually made by real people. Hopefully people will keep pushing them to get rid of more and more of the AI, but in a more sensible manner.
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@MasuMioshi When they stop being lazy and put work and effort into the game instead of relying on Ai for probably more than they admit then you can say it was "made with love". Like one of the official accounts said "they just gotta get better at hiding it" referring to Ai use.
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@AshuraFR69 my eyes have been fully and only focused on all the beautiful scenery that they worked hard to make themselves.
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@MasuMioshi I would have been bother by the AI if it was all over the place or shoved into your face but people gets offended over a billboard or a few videos that you won't even bother looking or you'll see only once. It's so insignificant, it's not even 1% of the game. I'm 20h+ hours deep
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@MasuMioshi with any other popular game such as Wuthering Waves or Genshin, people would find excuses like "it's not that much so it's fine", "it's okay it allowed them to save time and money" or bullshit like that. But hey since it's a far smaller studio, it is not okay. Hypocrites.
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@CandCyanide Same with video content on youtube, instagram, tiktok. If they aren't using it themselves, then their Editors are using some form of AI to help make/edit the videos they post.
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@MasuMioshi And they pay for premium X accounts 😂 Which funds AI … so stupid, double standards.
People are sadly not very intelligent nowadays or just selfish, happy to support if they get something out of it.
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@CwasontPapy The Irony is that if it continues, it will cause actual real people to not even bother to want to make games and put in effort, which would lead to more AI being used over time.
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@MasuMioshi This is sad to me. Killing each other just because a game is using small bit of gen ai, as if no other triple A game has done that.
To me it just really seems to spark hate and toxicity whenever it feels "right". To hate on games. Or whatever.
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sadly this day and age that seems to be the case. I think it is bad enough to where people dont even feel they need someone to think for them, they just let it happen subconsciously.
Too many people these days feel they need to be accepted, appreciated, and crave attention. And what better way to feel you get all that than by allowing yourself to think the same way those around you do, specially when its a popular person thinking that way.
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@MasuMioshi Are you saying that people need someone to think for them? I'm being sarcastic, because that's what I think.
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