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@kure362 Kochira koso I probably also came across hostile at first. I also apologize for being loud

@Mier_ruxes 理解を示してくれてありがとう。 私たち日本人も他の地域の人と友好的関係を築きたいとは思っているのです。 ただ、今回の騒動のように、どうしても譲れない文化的価値観の軋轢があると、溝を感じてしまいます。 どうか良き一日をお送りください。

例のニーアオートマタのやつ、 日本人としては「やるならこっそりやれ」が1番本音に近いと思うだけど、そこがあまり相互理解進んでない気がする。 「やるな」というより「やってる事を公言するな」なんだと思う… 同人誌にしたって公式の多くは「やるならこっそりやってくれ」が本音だし。

@kure362 Interesting perspective, I was just curious if it was a personal speculation or if it was backed by a data studied. I now understand its the first one Also don't worry. I rarely take offense to anything. You've definitely done nothing of the sort. Thanks for understanding.

@Mier_ruxes 日本がこれほど多彩なポップカルチャーを展開できたのは商業的インセンティブが下地にあったからであり、 日本が優れ他の地域が劣っているという優劣は自体は無く、あくまで文化的ノウハウの差でしかないと思っています。 要するにインセンティブの保護に対する価値観が影響していると言いたいのです

@Jacksepticeye Pls make it 3D cgi animation Jack. 2D animation won't capture the same mood

It's a dream come true that I get to announce I'm producing a Bloodborne R-Rated Animated Movie with Sony. I can't say much else about it yet but I will pour everything I have into this!

@kure362 @ship5_kesizumi Japanese media is good but overseas media is not bad either. If western corporations are criticized, they don't sit there and wallow in grief, they rise and deliver something better

@kure362 @ship5_kesizumi Hold on, I hope this analysis is lost in translation but am I understanding that you think the west has a limited cultural development because we hurt the corporations feelings?

@sasori_yokuneru I think what separates western values from the JP is the JP are TOO honorable I thought the dichotomy of Ghost or Samurai in "Ghost of Tsushima" Is corny. But youre either dishonorable for the right reasons or honorable to uphold beliefs I acknowledge the point of view of both

@sasori_yokuneru We still acknowledge that piracy is illegal but its a law no one takes seriously even when the repercussions are bad, because the police would rather arrest you for drugs, murder and civil cases Overseas only then take a step back when the corps themselves come out to warn & sue

世界の多くの国が違法コピーでアニメや漫画という文化に出会ったから、違法コピーに対してめちゃくちゃ緩い。 しかも海外のファンは「巨大企業からちょっと盗むのはロビンフッドがやる正当な行為」って言う価値観を持ってる。これはインターネット初期の違法ダウンロードサイトの時代の残滓だ。

@drapestorm @KUZ_3STT3P @nalltama Exactly this, I think what separates western beliefs from the japanese is they are TOO honorable I thought the dichotomy of Ghost or Samurai in "Ghost of Tsushima" Is corny. But youre either dishonorable for the right reasons or honorable to uphold beliefs Both are kinda right

@Mier_ruxes @KUZ_3STT3P @nalltama Of course. Piracy itself is illegal, but enforcing it is almost impossible. It's like making a law forbidding dancing in your own home. How the hell are you gonna enforce that? The only way is to increase surveillance, which won't go well.

ぼくは、公式に入手する方法が存在しなくなったものに対して海賊版はある程度容認されるべきポイントはあると思うんだけど ニーア リンカーネーションについては、グローバル版出してたので 「売ってたけど買わなかった」なんだよなぁ・・・

@drapestorm @KUZ_3STT3P @nalltama I mean piracy is still illegal but its a law no one takes seriously even when the repercussions are bad, because the police would rather arrest you for drugs, murder and civil cases The West only takes a step back from piracy when they are given a proper warning, but thats rare

@KUZ_3STT3P @nalltama I see, i see Maybe it's different in Japan, but in the West, piracy is seen as fine by the public Why? In America, Gabe Newell said that, statistically, piracy doesn't impact sales, and he's considered a well respected figure In EU, a study showed that piracy didn't impact sales.

(잠 덜깬 상태로 쓰는거라 횡설수설 일 수 있음) 이게 게임 보존 업계에 존재하는 절대 불변의 평행선일지도 모르지... 과거 사례로 일본 경매에 나온 레어한 개발단계 데이터가 담긴 카트리지를 두고 서구권 소재 게임 보존 협회랑 일본인 입찰자가 붙어서 일본인이 이긴적이 있음 그걸로 끝났으면 그 업계에 항상 있는 흔한 일 하나였겠지만, 이긴 일본인이 '귀중한 데이터가 외국인의 손에' 운운하면서 서구권에서 말이 좀 나온걸로 기억함 좀 더 정확하게는 외국인들이 사다가 추출하고 '누군가의 소유인 데이터를 공개적으로 뿌리는' 걸 막았다는 외침이었겠지 근데 기술적으로 보면 저기에 동의할 수 없는게 대부분의 개발용 카트리지는 작은 실수에도 데이터가 날아갈 수 있어서 신주단지 모시듯이 하며 전문가를 불러서 최대한 빨리 데이터를 덤프하는게 보통임 개인 수집가가 가져간다면... 그냥 비닐로 포장된채 책장에 올려져 있다가 데이터가 날아갈지도 모르지 사실 일본이 아닌 한국에서도 이런 보존은 회사의 일이니 개인이 법을 아슬아슬하게 넘어가며 할 이유가 없다고 보는 사람이 많음. '그들의 권리'라는 시각이 기본인거고. 반면 서구권에서는 '유실되었다고 판단될 수 있는 데이터가 존재하면 안된다'며 위험할 수 있는 선 까지 밀어붙이거나 넘는 경우도 많음. 소비자의 접근성이 더 중요한거지. 한예로 수년 전 소니가 구세대 기종의 스토어를 닫는다고 했을때, 동북아시아에서는 '아니 닫으면 어떻게해!'라고 비명만 질렀던 반면 서구권에서는 모사이트 운영진이 '아직 확보되지 않은 게임들이 아래와 같습니다. 데이터를 보내주실 수 있은 사람 있습니까?'라며 '수집되지 않은 롬파일'목록을 공개했음 (한글화로 인해 개별 버전으로 분류된 한국 정발판 상당수가 이 리스트에 있었음) 물론 이 롬파일은 전부 웹에 공개될거고... 불법복제에 위법으로 갈 수 있는건 맞음. 하지만 서구권은 -적어도 커뮤니티에서는- 그 보다는 소비자가 접근 가능한 위치에 있냐 없냐가 더 중요함 회사와 작업자의 권리가 중하냐(동북아시아), 구매자와 소비자의 권리가 중하냐(서구권)의 문제고. 공존할 수 없는 시각이다 이런 시각의 차이때문에 이 문제에 대해서 동북아와 서양은 아마 영원히 평행선을 달릴거고... 곁다리로 개인적으로는 서구권의 의견을 지지하는 편이긴 하다. 왜냐하면 '차기작 개발 하면서 원본 건드려서 날아갔는데요'등 구작 보존을 '너무 잘하는'(반어법) 사례를 너무 많이 봤거든요. 그리고 이런 강수를 두지 않는다면 게임이 역사 상당수가 유실될거고. 사용자가 직접 플레이하는게 게임의 특성인 이상 실플레이 녹화 따위로는 게임을 제대로 보존해서 후대에 넘겨주는게 불가능하다 유실된 게임이 이미 많은데 더 늘릴 이유는 없지...

@Tereta_Orcmon @nalltama And if you cant afford to buy a 2000 gaming pc, chances are you cannot run a 60dollar game with a cheap pc, so why pirate when you can't run it? I really believe a lot of the issues of piracy is throught the fact that it is unavailable to obtain it

@Tereta_Orcmon @nalltama That is a bit outdated. users yearn to build and save up for a 2000 dollar gaming pc now more than a 500 dollar console. And if you are comfortably owning a 2000 dollar pc, then money is not an issue, you can buy games without pirating.

このあたりの文化の違いって面白くてさ 別に一概に日本が金を落とす文化ってわけでもないんだよね。フリーソフト文化が強くて、野性の有料ソフト開発者は育たなかったんだし。 ただコンテンツにはお金払う文化なんだよな コミケなんて著作権法的には盗品市みたいなもんだけど、あくまでも二次創作。一次著作は守る。 このあたりおそらく海外は「そもそもデジタルに金を絶対に落とさない」層があるのかな 昔と違って今や誰でも簡単にお金を払える決済基盤がこれだけ整備されてるのに、数百円で買えるものに「誰か持ってる？くれ」のリクエストが海外だとまだまだ盛ん。日本は上がってたら貰ってくけどリクエストは出さない傾向がある。

@pijyon This needs more attention. The nuance must be acknowledged, we all know its morally gray, we also tip toe around it. But the moment the original creator has a say about it publically (they surprisingly usually dont), then it is immediately shut down to respect that wish.

海外の海賊版認識についてちょっとわかったことがある。海外の人はすでに販売終了になったゲーム等ついて、ある意味で保存的な目的で海賊版はギリ許されると考えている。 これに関しては海賊版は許されるという言い方ではなく、アーカイブをしていこうみたいな発信にすると反応が変わる可能性がある。（もちろん日本で許容しない人も多いだろうが） 一方で、日本人がダメと強く言ってる海賊版とは、発売したばかりのもの、販売中のものだ。もちろん販売終了したものに関してもダメとは思っているが、前者と後者では拒否感の強度はかなり変わるだろう。 単純に海賊版、と言った場合、多くの日本人が思い浮かべるのは前者だという認識は必要だろう。

@Bornim53 @sustainuntruth But just to keep it grounded, I prefer OG over Remake. Even before crowbcat made the video 2 years ago. I cannot prove to you when I say its not nostalgia, there may always be a little bit of that. but ultimately, OG > Remake for me. even tho I still enjoyed Remake

@Bornim53 @sustainuntruth Nah its not that. When I'm on the internet, i engage in these to exercise getting into an argument, it lessens post shower thought regrets of things unsaid kind of way I dont feel THAT strongly about RE4vsRE4R in an unemployment level of popping one's veins or any internet stuff

RE4R glazers on my TL already seething and nitpicking crowbcat's second video you love to see it

@Bornim53 @sustainuntruth Yeah I can't even be angry with you anymore. OP fumbled this for me

@Mier_ruxes @sustainuntruth Just to spite you, OP is not siding with anyone, hes siding with whatever vague ass side Crowbcat trying to convey

@sustainuntruth @Bornim53 Brother on which side are you ON? 😭 I'm trying to throw them off with backhanded remarks here

@Mier_ruxes @Bornim53 fluid? it's clunky as fuck "overall ease of experience" yeah you're the target audience for the "cinematic experiences" mark was talking about in the end of the video lol

@ritovaku1980 @Stafa_A2 Bro blocked me so I'll respond here instead. If you depend on laws to tell you whats right and wrong and not the 20-80years of life experience you have on this planet, then you never really grew up. If the laws dictate that murder is legal next year, you'll glady obey it

@ritovaku1980 @Stafa_A2 A creative property is being compared to a human being and held in the same weight. 😭😭😭 In a lot of the discussions, no one is denying it is illegal, but it's a lot closer to use the analogy of driving in the middle red light. Is it illegal? Yes. Are people being murdered? No

I'm not going to talk about the reincarnation copyright debate anymore It's pointless to argue with japanese company worshippers because they're indoctrinated from a young age to think the way they do Illegal doesn't always mean immoral Preservation of art>copyright laws