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Pete Hailey
Pete Hailey@PeteHaileyNBCS·
Really hope this ain’t the end for ole East Potomac. Picked up some shifts in the pro shop recently and was awed by the range of people who came to the course. Serious players. First-timers. Coors Lighters. Mini golfers. Plus a committed staff. Would be a giant loss in DC
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Garrett Morrison
Garrett Morrison@garrett_TFE·
You said NLT's fundraising had stalled. Again, just for the benefit of anyone looking at this thread, that is inaccurate. I have reported this out. NLT's fundraising was robust and ongoing. They had full funding for a $30-million Rock Creek project. They had funding for planning and compliance at Langston, which was next on the list. And they had more left over, just sitting in their bank account. The EP improvements were going to come last, partly because the profitability of the facility was enabling work on the other courses. NLT's fundraising performance was objectively exceptional for a municipal-golf operator, and there is every reason to believe it would have continued if the administration hadn't stepped in. The timelines of the projects were dependent on the compliance process, not fundraising. Those are facts.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@GolfOutsider @TZurybida NLT is not party to this. The way stronger suit is breach of lease by the Trump admin. The default letter from Trump to NLT was bogus, no evidence, no notice to cure or respond. But NLT is the one that needs to force that.
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Timothy Zurybida, CGCS
Waking up to this as I’m going in to prep East Potomac for play today.
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Alan Bastable
Alan Bastable@alan_bastable·
Spoke to operations manager at East Potomac GL this am. The @NOTUSreports scoop about Trump admin starting prep work for Tom Fazio reno job next week was news to the manager and his colleagues. Wild. This project is all happening in the shadows. golf.com/news/staff-his…
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@EditrixLane @JohnGoldman Exactly, Laurel Hill in FFX is a public course but it’s like $120+ to play there. This isn’t supposed to be an elite place for sub 15 HCPs.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@CasinoorgDevinO @Jesse583443 It’s the highest volume course in the whole area. If you can point me to another public range inside the beltway that has top tracers and buckets for those prices I’d love to know. They have frozen spending since this whole ordeal started.
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Devin O'Connor
Devin O'Connor@CasinoorgDevinO·
MAW, what stopped NLT from purchasing some new range balls? I’d pay $14 for a bucket and of the 200 balls, perhaps 5 would fly correctly. Many were chipped and some even were cut in half. The place is a dump. I’m not sure I favor Trump takeover but to say everything was great with NLT is a stretch.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@andrewdefrank Complete clown show. Trump admin has no real plan. NLT has a great plan for it that respects it for what everyone already uses it for. Ironically it’s taken so long bc of the Feds in the first place yet everyone is blaming NLT.
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Andrew DeFrank
Andrew DeFrank@andrewdefrank·
The public tennis center I grew up going to, the picnic and fishing areas packed with Washingtonians all summer, the best place to ride a bike or go for a run under cherry blossoms. All would be gone. Just to make an existing golf course more exclusive and expensive.
Rick Maese@RickMaese

New foundation says its mission is to “revitalize and beautify” the National Mall, describing plans to elevate public space while “ensuring that ‘the greatest game mankind has ever invented’ forever thrives in America’s capital city.” wapo.st/4n2XEQd

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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
If you’re at all familiar with this land you’d realize how ridiculously infeasible this would be. I dunno how the Trump admin bypass the same drawn out process NLT has had to go through for plans much more modest. It’s not just golfers who recreate here (bikers, runners, fishing)
Garrett Morrison@garrett_TFE

These two renderings of a potential "reimagined" East Potomac Park appear in a fundraising document distributed by the new "National Garden of American Heroes Foundation." It's unclear to what degree these (very AI-looking) images represent Tom Fazio's actual plans for the golf course, but I think they reveal some important things about the Trump administration's intentions at East Potomac: 1) The new "championship" golf course would take up most of the island. This would mean losing the perimeter road and bike path, the open space at the southern tip of the island, and perhaps even the famous cherry blossom trees, which feature prominently in an annual festival. These non-golf resources at East Potomac Park are used heavily by D.C. residents. 2) Building a bigger course would also mean reducing the number of available golf holes at the facility, likely from 36 to 18, as well as eliminating a historic, recently restored mini-golf course. Inevitably, this would make golf in D.C. less accessible, especially to beginning golfers. 3) Green fees for East Potomac's Blue Course currently top out at $48. There's no way the number would stay there post-reno. 4) The whole nouveau-riche, water-feature-centric aesthetic shown in the renderings is very much in line with Fazio's past work, but not at all representative of East Potomac's historical character and purpose. 5) The administration and the President himself have been open about their hopes to bring a major championship or Ryder Cup to the renovated East Potomac. I think it would be tremendously difficult to stage a tournament of that scale on this island, even after the reno. It does not appear to me that there's enough room.

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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@Jesse583443 @ollie190817 They are way better than before NLT. Again, they have not been able to move forward on their bigger plans bc of the approval process of the Feds. THEY reached out to the Trump admin to help them move it forward and the Trump admin rug pulled them.
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Jesse
Jesse@Jesse583443·
@MikeAWheeler @ollie190817 Is it possible to "destroy" any of the public DC courses? They are an embarrassment. NLT spent 6 years courting donors and creating a public facade, then blamed NPS when the Trump admin started asking questions a year of so ago. NLT couldn't execute, so it got fired.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@Jesse583443 @ollie190817 Brother I’ve followed this for years. NPS is not running it, NLT is. There is a legal process you have to go through to renovate and that is what was holding NLT up. Instead of helping NLT, they are going to destroy this unless you have $$$.
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Jesse
Jesse@Jesse583443·
@MikeAWheeler @ollie190817 It's a bad course, Mike. That's ok to admit. NPS wasn't getting it done, let's hope the Trump admin does. Ideally this will be a memorial park-type course -- high quality golf, low price for residents.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@Jesse583443 @ollie190817 Then tell NPS to approve the plans NLT already has. If you want high end golf go to any of the high end courses outside the city where the rounds are $100+. I play those too but if I just want to play an easier track or practice east Potomac is the best for that.
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Jesse@Jesse583443·
@MikeAWheeler @ollie190817 Well, I also live in DC, go to Langston and East Po multiple times a month, and I and many others I know definitely want to see real improvements at the courses. So......
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@sandboata The biggest attraction of this place is the accessibility. It where you go if you’re learning or want to walk a quick 9 or 18 for cheap and practice your game. They want to go from 36 holes and huge driving range, practice facilities to a 18 hole expensive champ course.
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sandbite
sandbite@sandboata·
part of the problem is no one the trust has ever actually done this before I went through their board. They seem like lovely people, but they’re not golf course Developers none of them and they were way behind on their fundraising goals golf courses sometimes need renovations east Potomac is one of them. It’ll be a gem when it’s done. they should do Langston next when this one is open
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@sandboata The board is not running NLT. They have Troon, Tom Doake, and multiple other well respected architects / golf course developers involved in this. They had the funds, it is the review process, required by the Feds that has prolonged any action.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@ollie190817 @Jesse583443 I live in DC, go here multiple times a week. This is not what anyone wants. It’s already the most trafficked course in the area bc it’s accessible and affordable.
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philip@ollie190817·
@MikeAWheeler @Jesse583443 They need a nice golf course in DC. This place is a dump and they’ve fallen short on their promises
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Garrett Morrison
Garrett Morrison@garrett_TFE·
This is what I’ve been hearing about the proposed Trump/Fazio course at East Potomac, now beginning to be confirmed by @RickMaese. Because of the (likely unrealistic) wish to bring a major championship to the facility, the course would have to be massive. This would probably mean cutting the number of holes at East Potomac in half and eliminating many of the popular non-golf areas on the island (roads, walking paths, picnic areas).
Rick Maese@RickMaese

Docs portray the golf project as an effort to modernize facilities and expand access. But the renderings depict a course that barely resembles its current layout, including new water features, a redesigned clubhouse and a footprint that extends closer to the edges of Hains Point

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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@JohnGoldman @carsonbhoffman Bc they are fixated on making it usable for PGA level events. They’d have to wipe the practice holes + both 9 hole courses to have room to do that. Most play here to get a quick affordable (and walkable) 18 in, play the 9 holes before / after work, use the practice holes.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@carsonbhoffman @JohnGoldman Just Google the stories man, there are some well reported stories on how this has gone down.
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MAW@MikeAWheeler·
@carsonbhoffman @JohnGoldman It does, NLT already had a plan for that. They were getting stonewalled by the Feds and some dude from the Trump admin offered to help them and then fucked them over. They are planning to make it something that will be completely inaccessible to most people who go there now.
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Society of Golf Historians
Without getting political the deficit is $1.9 Trillion but the U.S. Govt is going to take over a golf course from a group that was funding a restoration with private money with an architect taking a pay cut to restore it. This is the exact opposite of what conservative government is supposed to be. This is MAGA Meddling. There is zero public good- this is a big government move. I 100% oppose this decision.
Timothy Zurybida, CGCS@TZurybida

Waking up to this as I’m going in to prep East Potomac for play today.

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