Miles Lancing

@presh_G @mylovekeun @_IconicBase She is absolutely popular outside of America. You’re speaking nonsense. Please do some research.

@MilesLancing @mylovekeun @_IconicBase What does that have to do with if she’s popular outside America? She’s not popular outside America and that’s fact

Why do you think Madonna hasn't had the same impact on new generations as Michael Jackson?

@mylovekeun @presh_G @_IconicBase Now you should know better than to start name calling with all the baggage your boy has in the coffin.

@MilesLancing @presh_G @_IconicBase Miles needed to get out more cause he only knows a has been, Gina ☺️

@keaaaaley @taylanaswifft Boy your original post is racist. Develop some self awareness.

@taylanaswifft what’s a pop culture discussion on here without some good ol’ fashioned ✨racism✨

MJ has always made better music and had the GP. Madge’s music aged and is only supported by yt gays in their 40s

@lou_m_cypher It’s a mental disorder at this point. Madonna will always be MADONNA, no matter how much hate they throw.

Y'all gotta get over this weird smoke yall have for Madonna. You can be as ahistorical as you want, her impact cannot be erased. It is what it is.

@NqobileT_ @_IconicBase Equal to. There was no one else close to their level. That’s why they are the king and queen of pop.

@MilesLancing @_IconicBase So she was bigger or equal to MJ while they were both famous at the same time?

@presh_G @mylovekeun @_IconicBase Oh Gina. You need to get out more.

@MilesLancing @mylovekeun @_IconicBase Madonna isn’t famous outside America

@PapiNCali @_IconicBase I understand that you are passionate about him. You’re overestating him and underestimating her.

Nobody said Michael Jackson existed in a vacuum or that no controversy surrounds him. The point was that his artistic impact does not require a lecture to translate to a new generation. You can absolutely press play on Michael. Press play on “Billie Jean” and people understand the groove. Press play on “Beat It” and people understand the crossover. Press play on “Thriller” and people understand the video revolution. Press play on “Smooth Criminal” and people understand the choreography, the lean, the style, the visual language. Show the moonwalk for five seconds and the room gets it. That is what “press play” means. It means the work communicates instantly. Trying to drag “unresolved issues” into a conversation about why the art transfers generationally is not analysis. It is a deflection. Madonna’s legacy often needs context because so much of her impact was tied to media battles, religious outrage, sexual politics, MTV-era provocation, fashion, and reinvention strategy. That is not an insult. It is the nature of her legacy. Michael’s impact is more immediate because it is musical, visual, physical, and iconic at the same time. Also, “everything he touched” is a very cute dramatic phrase, but the legal record still exists. He was investigated, tried, and acquitted on every count in 2005. Allegations are not convictions. Controversy is not a verdict. So yes, be aware of context. But do not pretend context cancels the obvious. With Michael Jackson, you press play and the impact explains itself.

@PapiNCali @_IconicBase If you believe that you can just ‘press play’ on his music without having to contextualize him, you are incorrect. It’s great to be a fan of his, but be aware of the unresolved issues that surround him and everything he touched.

“Because she’s still alive” is part of it, but it’s not the answer. Death can turn artists into myth, sure. But Michael Jackson was already mythic while alive. The moonwalk did not need a funeral. “Thriller” did not need a memorial. “Billie Jean,” “Beat It,” “Smooth Criminal,” the glove, the hat, the lean, the silhouette, the Super Bowl, the videos, the choreography, the Disney attraction, the global hysteria: all of that was already embedded in pop culture before 2009. Madonna’s legacy is massive, but much of it is contextual. You often have to explain the provocation, the era, the media climate, the gender politics, the Catholic outrage, the reinvention strategy. With Michael, you press play. That is the difference.

@mylovekeun @_IconicBase You have him as your profile photo. Of course you think that. It’s okay. I don’t fault you for being deluded by your fan love.

@MilesLancing @_IconicBase Even if she died... She wont have the same impact as MJ. You can bookmarked this tweet

@ryudowons @amwvnrlah ThankYou for you for this explanation.

like ok *spoilers* for diamond dust below. dont read if u dont want to if you came from that tagged tweet thats trending. the reason wikun was shocked was not because of him getting scared yihyeon will be pregnant. its because he KNOTTED into someone. which he never ever does because he usually have good self control as a golden alpha. it is also because knotting (an omega) usually hurts their insides a little according to the novel at that point of time he is still confused about what yihyeon really is. so theres no way in that scene he thinks yihyeon can get pregnant immediately(false info). the only time which wikun gets agitated and paranoid is because after a lot of times they have sex (in the future) his main concern was possibly changing yihyeon into an omega because he is a ‘ghost’ alpha and yihyeon is a very rare special species. he is diamond dust.

@Provokatov You’re the one who publicly placed her into this conversation ⬆️ You are not very self aware

@MilesLancing Nah you’re just mad cos Oldonna stans can’t have a conversation about anyone else without including her in the conversation. Stay maddddddd

People saying Mariah Carey slept with her manager to secure a record deal, as if Madonna didn’t do any of that 10 years earlier.

@adela7lss @_IconicBase Yes. Sadly, though, particularly true for Madonna. So many stans of other female performers continually attempt to rewrite history to diminish her in effort to elevate their favorite. Something reserved only for the queen of pop.

@MilesLancing @_IconicBase This is true for every type of artist, people just root for your downfall and later says that misses you

@Provokatov Nope. Pulled into the conversation by you. Don’t cry over what you put out there. Just be better.

@MilesLancing Pulled into the conversation by another Oldonna stan. Stay delusional. 💅

@wiwiwiboyy …and, again, no conversation can be had about any female in music without pulling Madonna into it. Proof that SHE will always be the most influential of them all.

Enquanto isso a Cher em 1979 fazendo esse tipo de clipe, isso a Madonna ainda não tinha nem lançado o primeiro álbum ainda, mas fans de pop jurando que sabem tudo de música

@Provokatov Nope. She’s still pulled into the conversation. Hence the one we’re having. So I’m good.

@MilesLancing UH, NO - this post was in response to another person mentioning Madonna under a post regarding Mariah Carey, so no, YOU’RE INCORRECT LMAOOOO

@savagefunksoty @thehistorygirly @_IconicBase Yes.

@thehistorygirly @MilesLancing @_IconicBase antes do Michael morrer ele era piada em todos os lugares. não tente mudar a história

Madonna has a lot of new fans also. However, Michael has only recently had a large impact on younger audiences due to the biopic. Prior to that he was steady but not overly impactful in today’s market. Also, the biopic ending at the height of his career and sidestepping his decline and subsequent legal and alleged moral issues has reframed him for current audiences…making them flock to a more ‘pristine’ version of him.

@MilesLancing @_IconicBase I have to disagree. Kids were becoming Michael fans before he ever died. I did.

@Reeno65824333 @fernandunior @MrPopOfficial Yet…here you are. You obviously have quite the life.

@MilesLancing @fernandunior @MrPopOfficial ‘Restudy the era’ ?? 😂😂😂😂 No thanks - I have a life. Better things to do than study the colour of someone’s hair 40 years ago. Take care

Cyndi Lauper shares that at the start of her third era, she added a black streak to her blonde hair to distinguish herself from Madonna. At the time the two were pitted against each other, though Cyndi's 3rd era ended up being a commercial decline in her career.