Morgan Drew
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@RyanOli22855873 #RO #PT582 Ryan that's a good question, but I think l physically they would be ready because this stimulation is improving ROM, not necessarily strength. Strength would be a more gradual progression. Therefore, physically, they would not be putting too much strain on their body.
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@MorganDrew16 Do you think using stim and PNF in the beginning of treatment is too advanced for patients (too stimulating; both emotional and physical), if so, how could you accomplish the same success as seen in the article?
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#PT582 #RO The following article demonstrates that FES in combination with PNF is beneficial for patients in improving ROM. However, over time the benefits seem to decrease. Therefore, FES could be used at the start of treatment, but not for long term. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22151126/
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@JordynMaxwell2 #JM #PT582 I would imagine that postural stability would improve and a reduced fall risk because if a person's sensations are more intact, they may be able to better respond to stimuli and thereby recover faster and catch themselves before falling.
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@MorganDrew16 Great article, Morgan! This review did not specifically include research looking at fall prevention or postural instability as treatment outcomes. Do you think a study looking at these parameters would also show improvement with an estim intervention? #PT582 #JM
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Creatine supplementation should be avoided by patients who have preexisting renal disease. Taking supplements can raise creatinine levels, which is a waste product of muscle activity, and could worsen a patient’s condition. #PT582 #KD pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15273072/
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@Dmbrockman @Dmbrockman Agreed, it allows for quicker progress, but how long do you think a person should do this? At what point would you say that enough progress has been made to no longer need injections or do you think a patient should get them throughout his/her life? #PT582 #MD
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@RyanOli22855873 I think, especially for children, stimulating the gait control theory would be a great idea. This way if thye have to have more than 1 injection, they are not scared of it the following time. #PT582 #MD
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@MorganDrew16 I would also try stimulating the gate control theory to supply sensory overload to see if that helped combat the pain they were experiencing prior to guidance on injections (these would be last resort).
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@DanielleAngulo4 @DanielleAngulo4 I agree! Since botox allows for such a quick improvement in spasticity, do you think that it could cause patients to be less satisfied with the results from exercise interventions, if the results from exercise do not seem as immediate? #PT582 #MD
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Only the pt can decide if using botox is worth the cost/short time of effectiveness. Evaluation of their own benefits/side effects needs careful consideration. The temporary weakness might be worth the decreased spasticity and improved movement #PT582 #MD rchsd.org/programs-servi…
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@SterrettCarolyn @SterrettCarolyn I agree that it is a great modality to be used for patients with contractures! Do you think that botox, like medication, for some patients could also be used too frequently and cause an overreliance on botox and lead to less effort towards other interventions?
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@AlexJacobs_SPT @AlexJacobs_SPT That is a great article find! Your article also mentioned that it seems to be more effective when injected in children at younger ages; do you think that botox could cause harm to the development of the child? #PT582 #MD
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@MorganDrew16 Any intervention that works to encourage functional movement would be recommended. These could be immobilizing with splinting or casting, or work on movement specific aspects with general movement training or strengthening exercises. #PT582 #MD
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@abigail_lue I agree! I think that it is definitely patient dependent and important to see how the patient responds to the botox intervention. #PT582 #MD
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@MorganDrew16 In this study pts received tx over a range of 27-48 months but, I think I would depend on the severity of impairment. If the pt was seeing lasting benefits after 2-3 rounds of injections I think it would make more sense to focus on PT rather than continuing BTX-A #PT582 #MD
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@HaydenHoekstra @HaydenHoekstra agree that if it is paired with active exercise then it can be beneficial for short term and long term purposes! Are there particular active exercises that you think would be beneficial, (ie isometric, isotonic,etc)? #PT582 #MD
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