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@CentralPeelLaw @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Yes obviously everyone deserves respect. They are people, that is not my argument. Again this is a legal debate…. @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #OJENROEJSP22

@Morgynw55 @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw I have been to grange park many times. I see children playing , i see dogs running around, and i also see tent encampers who are minding their own business. sometimes we chat about the weather or their past lives. they are still people who want respect. @OJEN_ROEJ #OJENROEJSP22

Respectfully, if you read this article you will see that there is overcrowding in shelters due to the pandemic and the cost for housing. pressprogress.ca/torontos-shelt… @OJEN_ROEJ #OJENROEJSP22

@CentralPeelLaw @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw (2/2) this is a violation of the right of liberty and security because of the unsettling feeling or the threatening feeling coming from homeless people encamping in the parks they take their kids. @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #OJENROEJSP22

@Emilia02095 @Morgynw55 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw For sure, but this could be challenged under section 7 of the charter, as everyone should have the “right to life, liberty and security.” By not providing a standard of living, the government of Canada is depriving its citizens of these basic rights! @OJEN_ROEJ #OJENROEJSP22

@CentralPeelLaw @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Reversed, this could also be challenged under section 7 and others right to life, liberty and security. Bringing back to my first argument people feel threatened and scared when homeless people are occupying their properties… (1/2) @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #OJENROEJSP22

@CentralPeelLaw @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw I’m sorry but this has nothing to do with the legal perspective. This feels like a human rights debate rather than a legal debate. @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #ojenroejsp22

@Morgynw55 @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw These shelters are NOT a sustainable solution! They’re feeding the mistrust homeless individuals have in public services 😕 @OJEN_ROEJ #ojenroejsp22

@CentralPeelLaw @Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Actually I have to disagree, no one is depriving citizens of economic prosperity. They have accessible shelters waiting for them. That are legal and not a issue in society. Why make a issue in society when they have very accessible resources already? @OJEN_ROEJ #ojenroejsp22

@Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @Morgynw55 @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw the charter was based on many philosophies of law, including that of Locke and Tucker's right to life, liberty, and property/prosperity. by forcing people out of their homes in tents, we are depriving them of their right to economic prosperity #ojenroejsp22 @OJEN_ROEJ

What happened to this debate being law based? #ojenroejsp22 @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw

@Emilia02095 @LeahyLaw_No @CentralPeelLaw @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Yes emilia, agree

@sebm2431 @OJEN_ROEJ @CentralPeelLaw @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @ProvostLaw Come on seb we’re a team LOL. I’m kidding, I respect your opinion I think the cost and money will always outweigh any issue, it’s sad but true money always wins. So the cheapest option will always be what the government goes to #ojenroejsp22 @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw

@CentralPeelLaw @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw All of your points are super valid I do agree. But then again it isn’t as simple as just providing resources, it generally needs to be a community agreed decision, because most likely the money is coming out of our pockets for these resources. #ojenroejsp22 @ProvostLaw @OJEN_ROEJ

@Morgynw55 @LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw 3. fix the current tax percentages for the wealthy to recognize the wealth inequality we currently have 4. provide better mental health resources such as therapy for people 5. have government-sponsored rehabilitation support systems (2/3) @OJEN_ROEJ #OJENROEJSP22

@LeahyLaw_No @CentralPeelLaw @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw What is the solution though. It isn’t unknown there is a systematic failure I agree. But the solution cannot really be justified because in either sense it isn’t going to please everyone. #ojenroejsp22 @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw

@CentralPeelLaw @Morgynw55 @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw We completely agree, there is an international human right to housing. It is the governments responsibility to adhere to it. The fact we are having this conversation proves the systemic failure of the unhoused systems in Canada.

@LeahyLaw_No @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Define basic human rights though? I feel every basic human right is obided by regarding homeless shelters? There is no right to housing regardless.. @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #ojenroejsp22

@Morgynw55 @mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw It is actually our job as a society to protect our charter rights. (Sec.7 of the charter protecting our right to life, liberty and security.) You are correct that we do not need to provide the upmost amazing experience but some basic human rights would be nice.

@mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Sorry, one more. The idea of shelters being over crowded is yes valid, however it is not our job as a society to provide the upmost amazing experience for homeless individuals, we provide them with shelters, what more could there be? @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #ojenroejsp22

@mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ Overcrowding is inevitable, there is overcrowding everywhere homeless people are resisting shelters as their own choice and accompanying areas meant for children and families. #ojenroejsp22 @ProvostLaw @OJEN_ROEJ (1/2)

@mcd_faith @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw (2/2) It is not fair to let homeless people accompany areas meant for children, it is an argument that will never be black and white but the simple solution is to restrict homeless people to homeless shelters, and homeless shelters only. @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw #ojenroejsp22

#OJENROEJSP22 @OJEN_ROEJ @ProvostLaw Section 7 states the right to liberty and and to personal security. This human right is infringed by having these encampments in public areas, it is not unknown most individuals feel unsafe in the presence of homelessness