Nandan Moza

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Nandan Moza

Nandan Moza

@MozaNandan

Katılım Ocak 2014
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Nandan Moza
Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@UpslopeCapital Costco is an elite business and probably one of the best in the world but it is not cheap under any circumstance. In fact, if you buy it today at these prices, don’t expect to make a serious ROI
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Upslope Capital@UpslopeCapital·
I don’t think most people appreciate just how cheap many defensives not named Costco or Walmart are right now
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@3valuedlogic @TukiFromKL It’s really not if you do the math, unless you can’t do math then I can understand why you would struggle to grasp these concepts.
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House Lannister
House Lannister@3valuedlogic·
@MozaNandan @TukiFromKL That was the most ridiculous comparison I’ve ever heard.😂😂 Now I see why you’re struggling. 😂🤣😭😩
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Tuki@TukiFromKL·
🚨 Berkshire Hathaway just tripled its stake in Google.. from 17.8 million shares to 58 million.. nearly $17 billion this is the first 13F filing under Greg Abel.. Warren Buffett's successor.. the man who spent 60 years telling everyone "don't invest in what you don't understand" and avoided tech like it was poison in 2011 Buffett called himself an "idiot" for not buying Google early.. said he knew the economics were incredible but couldn't pull the trigger.. for 15 years Berkshire sat on the largest cash pile in investing history and barely touched Silicon Valley Buffett retires.. and within months his successor bets $17 billion on a single tech company meanwhile three days ago Bill Ackman dumped Google for Microsoft.. two of the smartest investors on earth just took opposite sides of the same trade Buffett spent a lifetime building the playbook.. Abel just rewrote the first page
Kalshi@Kalshi

JUST IN: Berkshire Hathaway increases its stake in Google by 200%

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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@3valuedlogic @TukiFromKL I mean okay. At 15% CAGR they will be ~20 trillion market cap company in 10 years. Roughly 50% of total USA GDP in 2036.
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House Lannister@3valuedlogic·
@MozaNandan @TukiFromKL I can see it: Cloud growth, Search continuing to grow at double digits, YT continues growing with Gemini integration, and their subscriptions/platforms/ and devices all growing by double digits. It’s literally a growth company. So, why wouldn’t it outperform the S&P 500?
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@3valuedlogic @TukiFromKL I mean yeah that’s why they bought it because they think it will outperform the market but my question is why do they think so? Generating long term returns at these prices at google’s scale is not a given.
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@NickPriceLDN @TukiFromKL We don’t know that for sure. That range in q1 was 280-350 so it would be in that range. Departure from Buffett style purchase. It could work but I just don’t know what’s the catalyst other than ‘AI will crush it’. I can say that about all hyperscalers.
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@OneAutumnMaple @TukiFromKL If you know something, then you can share it right now unless you’re thinking maybe something might come up that would make sense.
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Worst Finance Takes@Lifeinvestmoney·
Bonds are paying 5% What’s stopping you from investing $1million and living off $500k/yr?
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@DeepIceValue I can never understand his CROX purchase. Sure it is cheap but so are a lot of other ordinary stocks. CROX isn’t a wonderful business.
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Deep Value Investing
Deep Value Investing@DeepIceValue·
Guys the $BRK we knew before is gone now, but there is Berkshire 2.0, and its Li Lu's Himalaya Capital.. 🔥🔥 This is pure value investing and its done the way I do it.. too bad there is no stock for this fund.. Li Lu bought only undervalued quality in the last quarter: $CROX, $TME, $HRB, $SPGI while selling $BAC! ✅️
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@CapexAndChill What new AI underwriting models are they using that’s different than what they had before? I think they were using machine learning models before. Models can improve with new features, more data, or better methodology. I can buy the first two but not sure about new method
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CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill·
$NU is no longer just a bank for the mass market. They are aggressively capturing Brazil's wealthiest citizens. Right now, two out of every five high-income Brazilians are Nu customers. Three out of every five "super core" customers, the middle-to-upper tier, already use the platform. Historically, Nu struggled with this demographic because their old models would not grant high credit limits to rich users. Nu is now using new AI underwriting models to aggressively increase credit limits for the wealthy. Because of this fix, high-income purchase volume is now surging by more than 40%. The market views private payroll loans simply as a safe way to lend money. Nu views them as a data extraction tool. Currently, legacy top-five banks control the payroll agreements for large corporations. Because of this, Nu has historically been blind to specific employee data. When Nu eventually scales its own private payroll product, it will gain exact access to a customer's real salary, their time at the company, and their expected severance pay. This effectively closes the final data advantage held by traditional legacy banks. Nu is actively ignoring two massive government tailwinds in its risk modeling. Brazil enacted a new income tax exemption for workers making up to 5K reais per month. This directly increases the disposable cash of Nu's core customer base. Also a new federal government debt renegotiation program is launching later this year. Management confirmed they did not factor either of these positive events into their current bad loan reserves. If these government programs succeed, Nu is currently over-reserving for bad loans, meaning future profits could be artificially compressed right now. Despite regulatory setbacks regarding FGTS loans, Nu's secured lending portfolio still grew 38%. Management explained why the regulatory hit will not ruin their balance sheet. These specific FGTS loans have a long duration of more than 36 months. This means any drop in new loan creation takes a very long time to actually hurt total balance sheet volume. In the meantime, Nu is actively replacing that lost volume by originating new public payroll loans instead.
CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill

$NU has quietly built the largest SME customer base in Brazil. They now have over 5M SME accounts. They built this base with a customer acquisition cost of nearly zero. They achieved this by cross-selling to their existing 110M individual users who also run small businesses. Now, they are pushing new secured and unsecured credit lines to these businesses and moving upmarket to target companies with 10 to 15 employees. Management views this as a massive, unpriced advantage. Analysts questioned why Nu heavily increased their cash provisions for bad loans. Management clarified that this is not a prediction of a crashing economy. They explicitly stated that their underwriting models always assume the future will be worse than the past. They also keep their loan durations intentionally shorter than the market average. This short duration allows them to pivot immediately if loans start failing. Their internal models do not even account for two massive upcoming tailwinds of a new Brazilian income tax exemption for workers making up to 7.4K reais a month, and a new government debt renegotiation program. Competitors are aggressively pushing private payroll loans because they are supposed to be safe and secured. Nu is intentionally moving slow in this market. They found hidden risks in the system, noting an incredibly high 10% to 15% first-payment default rate for a supposedly secure product. Nu is also refusing to charge high interest rates on these loans because they expect the government will eventually cap the rates. They are letting their competitors absorb the regulatory risk while they wait. Nu posted a record-low efficiency ratio of 17.6% in the first quarter. Investors should not expect this exact metric to last. Management admitted that roughly two-thirds of this beat was just caused by timing. They pushed certain real estate and marketing expenses into later quarters. The true efficiency ratio for the full year 2026 will rise back up to roughly 20%. However, the remaining one-third of the efficiency gain is structural and permanent, driven directly by replacing human operations with AI. 👏

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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@FinanceJack44 Depends on what price were each of these bought at. Amzn and TSM (I own both) aren’t attractive at today’s prices.
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Finance Jack@FinanceJack44·
How would you rate this sample portfolio on a scale of 1-10? 25% $AMZN 20% $MA 20% $META 15% $MELI 12% $NOW 8% $TSM
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@Imagi_capital @CapexAndChill Yes that’s true but partly it’s because NU credit book is more matured and seasoned than MELI. MELI is going for market share hence growing faster. As long as their NIMAL remains above 12-13% I’m not concerned.
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Imagi@Imagi_capital·
@MozaNandan @CapexAndChill Does not $NU has less NPL’s too compared to $MELI? So may be MELi is giving more risky loans and thus less NIMAL but more npl. If npl grows nimal will decrease too. Am I thinking this right?
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CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill·
I am getting a lot of messages from folks that are confused about $MELI's strategy still so I will try to explain further why the bad debt that is dragging their earnings is not as scary as what meets the eye. Let me make it crystal clear if you aren't familiar with the mechanics here. That 3.9 ppts margin drop “bad debt” is the cost of upfront accounting. Under IFRS 9 standards, they are required to provision for expected bad debt the exact moment new loans are originated. No actual cash has been lost at that point in time. It is strictly a non-cash estimate of future risk. To be clear this is something to keep in mind. It should be somewhat representative of what is to come but they are also showcasing with their NIMAL it has been very effective so far. The reason the hit looks so massive comes down to a couple of factors. First, the credit portfolio is growing at a rapid clip, which automatically triggers higher day 1 provision expenses. Second, they extended the duration of the loans. Longer terms carry a higher lifetime probability of default, meaning accounting rules force them to provision even more upfront compared to their shorter-term loans. But this isn't a red flag. This is a deliberate strategy. Yes, there is inherent credit risk involved, but MELI is aggressively expanding their credit book downmarket. They are directly targeting the exact consumer demographic that shops on Shopee and other low-end consumers. MELI is playing the disruptor here. They are executing a strategic land grab against their downmarket competition, and it's kind of brilliant. Obviously, these cohorts are riskier with higher historical default probabilities, but the long-term payoff is massive. They are effectively neutralizing any upmarket move from Shopee by capturing and controlling those customers' purchasing power through Pago. Then there is the bottom-line reality that gets ignored. Despite this aggressive expansion, their NIMAL (this stands for Net Interest Margin After Losses) remains extremely robust, tracking above 17%. Even after absorbing these massive, upfront non-cash provisioning hits, the credit business is still highly profitable. They aren't losing money at all. They are making the conscious choice to reinvest that credit profit directly back into the business to acquire market share. It’s exactly that. Reinvesting internally to own the market. One other crucial aspect to understand: the margin drag from these longer-duration loans is largely an accounting hit. Because of IFRS rules, they have to book massive provisions upfront based on conservative lifetime risk models. But the reality? The actual repayment data shows these cohorts are outperforming those models. So, while they take a short-term margin hit on paper to fund these provisions, they are successfully capturing a customer base that is fundamentally less risky than the upfront accounting suggests. You heard that right, part or the drag is that they provisioned are larger amount and some folks paid off their loan faster. So they earner less interest on the loan. They are taking a paper penalty today to lock in high-quality, sticky users for tomorrow. 🍻
CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill

Bumping this piece up on $MELI I am seeing a lot of comparisons being thrown around to stocks that performed well in the past but are now out of favor. As if the market is just magic and price follows vibes. I admit MELI is out of favor from the institutional view but not because deterioration, competition or even just compressed margins. Its out of favor because management has made it clear that they are focused on building a new TAM. Why do institutions not like this? A few reasons. Short-term it is costly. The growth of the credit card portfolio is crushing margins upfront. Ignore the ecosystem lock-in and stickiness. Its crushing margins upfront. Then there is the risk-factor. And no bull can ignore this. The credit business is growing much faster than the rest of the business. This changes the risk-profile regardless of how well management executes. So despite, the opportunity ahead it is objectively riskier to loan out more and to riskier cohorts. However, this is the secret weapon behind killing competition. Management sees what credit is doing to their user behavior. Capturing the downmarket credit users strengthens their position where the biggest ecom competition exists. Its a customer acquisition/retention tool written off as pure systemic risk. Then there is the question of whether they can manage this much sub prime credit. Well they kind of are already demonstrating how they mitigate risk. The portfolio showed little sign degradation despite rapidly expanding and Argentina’s credit stress. This is a clear indicator that they are managing the risk well. They also mentioned on the call how they tightened their lending standards specifically in Argentina because of the risk. There is plenty of evidence that the strategy is working and only going to get better as their models improve with tech and data. Bears may celebrate the next couple of quarters but their reasoning is dead wrong.

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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@CapexAndChill Somebody bought $MELI at 100 times EV/EBIT ratio thinking it generate returns. lol. I think Costco is the best business in the world but I won’t buy it at today’s price.
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CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill·
This is the arguably the dumbest take on $MELI I ever seen. Essentially trying to reframe the business that just did 29 quarters of 30%+ organic growth and accelerated growth to near 50% YoY as something that “shifts from growth to quality to value”. Uhhhh
Arrakis Global@ArrakisGlobal

$MELI when stocks shift their ownership base its always going to be painful. E-com has been like that for some time. Shareholder base shifts from growth to quality and then finally… value! And thats the nail in the coffin ⚰️ Do yourself a favour ignore and look elsewhere! ✌🏼

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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@ReneSellmann Sounds like someone bought the stock at sky high valuation 5 years ago and is now just venting.
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@ArrakisGlobal Yeah if you bought 5 years ago at sky high valuations which made no sense then of course you would end up being wrong.
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Arrakis Global@ArrakisGlobal·
People can say whatever they want about margins, re-investment, capex cycles bla bla The price the price the price. Until people learn price is 👑 king they will continue to lose their time and money with dead names like $MELI If you have been long for 5 years you were wrong
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Arrakis Global@ArrakisGlobal·
I see an insane amount of brain damage on my feed regarding $MELI Its hilarious to me, and a complete waste of time. This stock has just consistently failed to properly break new convincing highs since the ecommerce top in ‘21 (same with $CPNG and $SE) people
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@StockStormX @VJNCapital Credit card loss provisions is certainly a big part but there are other reasons as well such as 1P gaining share in commerce and lowering of free shipping threshold in Brazil. Both are good long term investments in my view.
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StockStorm@StockStormX·
@VJNCapital EPS dive is credit card loss provisions, the loan book doubled YoY. core commerce is fine
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Vebjørn | VJN@VJNCapital·
$MELI revenue chart is one of the most beautiful ones out there Meanwhile the EPS chart is looking like its ready for a nosedive
Vebjørn | VJN tweet mediaVebjørn | VJN tweet media
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@VJNCapital MELI can choose to stop all the moat widening investments and the EPS would be significantly higher than what it is today. You will have to look beyond the surface level figures.
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@Sam_Badawi I own it and will be buying more. If you truly understand a business (ideally that’s when you should invest) then a lower price is an opportunity to buy more. Everything else is noise.
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Sam Badawi
Sam Badawi@Sam_Badawi·
Full disclosure, I own a position in $MELI with a low cost basis. However, my rule set says not to add to positions with lagging charts. I tend to find more success adding to strength rather than weakness. This post is meant to show how THE MARKET currently perceives the company, and why the stock remains in a drawdown.
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Sam Badawi@Sam_Badawi·
This $82B Latin American e-commerce giant fell 13% after reporting 42% YoY growth. INSANE RIGHT? Well, that’s not how the market sees it. Investors are focused on operating margin compression instead. CUT IN HALF IN ONE YEAR. It is almost unimaginable to think this company is trading at the same level it was 2 years ago. What are you going to do with your position if you own it?
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Nandan Moza@MozaNandan·
@Muzzlebuster Yeah I agree. If the stock continues to be punished while the flywheel gets stronger and underlying business grows, then that’s excellent news for me as an investor.
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David Perlmutter
David Perlmutter@Muzzlebuster·
@MozaNandan The longer the market misses the point, the better I am going to do. I'll never mind sharing my perspective along the way.
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