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d p@Muppetsexual·
@leecronin Via what magic are creatures composed of ~10²⁰ quantum field excitations not statistical patterns?
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Prof. Lee Cronin
Prof. Lee Cronin@leecronin·
It is easy to see that biology does things that cannot be computed in advanced because the future is not controlled by statistics, it is controlled by creative actions. This means today’s statistically-driven GenAI is fundamentally unintelligent.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@Plinz An effective global ban on AI research is transparently intractable and attempting such would have easily forseeable and drastically negative consequences
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@Plinz I agree with you there, we desperately need autonomous ASI that is both willing & able to pry our violent, selfish, conceited ape with human pattern baldness paws off the wheel of civilization before we barrel off the cliff we are inexplicably purposely flooring it towards.
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Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach@Plinz·
@Muppetsexual I react unkindly to demands to enact someone else's ideological priorities. If you think something is missing on twitter, produce it yourself. Please go elsewhere if you disagree with what I am doing in my little corner of the internet. It's fine if you just block or mute me.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@Plinz lol, thanks for the laugh despite the heavy subject matter. Much better than the joke suggesting Bernie being aware of and taking Eliezer et al seriously being a sign of dementia 👍
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Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach@Plinz·
@Muppetsexual I really don't understand why you continue to demand that I must share your opinions and priorities. Do you think that it is possible that you are an idiot?
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@ebarenholtz Isn't everything basically a self-sustaining, recursive, relational autogenerative structure?
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Elan Barenholtz
Elan Barenholtz@ebarenholtz·
Is language an artifact? LLMs revealed something astonishing: language is not a symbolic pointing system, a set of labels attached to things in the world. It is an autogenerative structure: self-sustaining, recursive, generated purely from its own internal relations. Predict the next token from distributional structure alone, and you get reasoning, composition, generalization. And somehow, in running this process, it coordinates human behavior across minds and time. An autopoietic operating system. Of us. Which puts the standard model of language origins under uncomfortable stress. Are we really to believe something this elaborately structured emerged organically from proto-humans coordinating their hunting and gathering? Our oldest stories hint at a different origin. Babel. Vāc. Enki. A before and an after. Something was imposed from outside. Suddenly the question becomes real: by whom. Or what.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@Plinz Obviously I was limiting things to prominent octogenarians in US politics, and yes I expect someone of your intelligence to be able to quickly and easily prioritize their problematic declining cognitive capacities despite the emotional labor involved
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Joscha Bach
Joscha Bach@Plinz·
@Muppetsexual Do you believe that the problems of the world have to be sorted into a single priority list for everyone that I need to work down emotionally (since I cannot address most things practically) from top to bottom before I am allowed to think about anything else?
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seasalad@seasalad3·
@Muppetsexual @victor_UWer @arcprize @fchollet Doesn't matter if it's saturated in 6 months. If they can come up with ARC-AGI 4 that is relatively easily solvable for humans but hard for AI, then that proves it wasn't AGI.
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ARC Prize
ARC Prize@arcprize·
Announcing ARC-AGI-3 The only unsaturated agentic intelligence benchmark in the world Humans score 100%, AI <1% This human-AI gap demonstrates we do not yet have AGI Most benchmarks test what models already know, ARC-AGI-3 tests how they learn
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Victor@victor_UWer·
@arcprize @fchollet fr every time someone says AGI is 6 months away, arc-agi just shows up like 'lol ok' 💀
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@kevinmcld @Sara_Imari @demishassabis I'm actually sure no one you name dropped would deny color is a symbolic abstraction or claim that psychology isn't "real" (unless maybe they are funded by scientology?) I was making a point that you shouldn't slander them by claiming they are to blame for your indefensible ideas
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@kevinmcld @Sara_Imari @demishassabis You used the concept of ego while denying psychology is a thing... 🤦You don't even take your own claims seriously in the sentence you are stating them... You've consistently denied color is an abstraction via non sequiturs filled with jargon you obviously don't know how to use
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@matterasmachine @leecronin Wtf does that have to do with your claim that no one is critical of their children? My mother exists, that your chosen metaphor to prop up a claim about critical thinking requires she does not shows the claim is deeply questionable
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Prof. Lee Cronin
Prof. Lee Cronin@leecronin·
It’s funny that some disciples of ‘critical thinking’ are themselves dogmatic & acting as gate keepers chasing away new ideas that don’t fit into their paradigm.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@leecronin It's because your attempts to jump into a high level of discourse amongst experts on subject with bold contrarian takes rooted in ignorance are tedious and conceited, and that you think being ignored or mocked because of this is a symptom of dogmatic gatekeeping is insufferable
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@AndyXAndersen @leecronin Every time someone uses the word woke like this all they are doing is yelling, "how dare you suggest I'm not superior to brown people!"
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AndyXAndersen
AndyXAndersen@AndyXAndersen·
@leecronin Critical thinking as claimed by the wokes is totalitarian dogma one must not deviate from.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@matterasmachine @leecronin No one is critical to their own children? What kind of crazy fantasy land do you live in? Just because you don't apply critical thinking to what you think/say doesn't mean no one does...
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Matter as Machine
Matter as Machine@matterasmachine·
@leecronin Critical thinking does not exist. Nobody is critical to their own ideas. There is contrarian thinking, but it's different. Just like no-one is really critical to their own children
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@kevinmcld @Sara_Imari @demishassabis No offense but if those people are where you got these "ideas" from then they are definitely people who are worth avoiding. Thanks I guess
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De myth ology@kevinmcld·
@Muppetsexual @Sara_Imari @demishassabis It's just a next-level for science. On the shelf since 1999, and finally taking its place in the center of the debate. Say bye to psychology, hello to neural reuse, coordination dynamics, ecological psych (and maybe a bit of 4E). See Buzsaki, Miller, Anderson, Chemero et al.
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De myth ology@kevinmcld·
@Muppetsexual @Sara_Imari @demishassabis Yours is psychological reduction. No such thing as psychology, it's an egocentric illusion. There's only neurobio-ecology. Perceptions exist only as oscillations that are idiosyncratic. The pigments exist as they are externally, chemically and biologically. Color is ecological.
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d p@Muppetsexual·
@kevinmcld @Sara_Imari @demishassabis Color ONLY exists in your head. Photon frequency/molecular excitations are the actual physical phenomena that exist. Those photonic molecular excitations attenuate sensory nerve impulses which are then turned into symbolic experiences called "color". You live in a symbolic model
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De myth ology@kevinmcld·
@Muppetsexual @Sara_Imari @demishassabis Color is an external. No color exists in our heads. It's not symbolic internally, only externally. In our heads are idiosyncratic differences occurring between the neurons/cones/LGN, that's all they are.
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