Jouko Salonen

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Jouko Salonen

@MycelFi

Fungi farmer, Bio/Acc Political engineering: building bio-regional, non-custodial, decentralized techno-biological systems to produce nutritious food.

Chicken Mountain Katılım Mart 2009
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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
lately, the 🐔🏔️🍄🧑‍🌾 a.k.a The Chicken Mountain Mushroom Farm has started to feel a Rube Goldberg startup. I need advice for picking the right next step! The old Rube Goldberg rule is "Start by building the step that provides the most value and is the hardest to pull off." (I may have copied that rule from @jproco but not sure?)
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VLAD HOSTS THE BEST PODCAST IN BITCOIN
I told my parents about my new Claude addiction “Don’t tell anyone, you will be out of work soon if everyone discovers how easy it is” They still live in an era when information had gatekeepers and you had to pay to learn from an “expert” They can’t understand that we live in a world where everyone gets the information for free and there are no gatekeepers anymore So the difference isn’t made by the access to software (or information about it), but by every person’s willingness to put in the work to create something worthwhile Imagination plays a significant role too, as every tool is useless or boring for someone who doesn’t know what to do with it
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Dr. Lemma
Dr. Lemma@DoctorLemma·
In 2003, a German film crew followed a nomadic family in Mongolia's Gobi Desert. The film, The Story of the Weeping Camel, was nominated for an Oscar. A mother camel had rejected her newborn after a brutal two-day labour. Without her milk, the calf would die. The family knew one option. They sent their two young sons on a journey across the desert to find a musician who could perform a ritual called Hoos, a chanting ceremony passed down for centuries specifically for this moment. The musician came. The ritual was performed. The mother camel wept real tears and turned to her calf for the first time. The film crew had gone to document a way of life. They had no idea they would capture that. UNESCO added the Hoos ritual to its Intangible Cultural Heritage list in 2015, alongside flamenco, the Mediterranean diet, and the art of Neapolitan pizza making.
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Teknium (e/λ)@Teknium·
FYI Qwen 3.6 Plus Preview is free on Nous Portal and OpenRouter in Hermes Agent right now :)
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Justin Drake
Justin Drake@drakefjustin·
Today is a monumentous day for quantum computing and cryptography. Two breakthrough papers just landed (links in next tweet). Both papers improve Shor's algorithm, infamous for cracking RSA and elliptic curve cryptography. The two results compound, optimising separate layers of the quantum stack. The results are shocking. I expect a narrative shift and a further R&D boost toward post-quantum cryptography. The first paper is by Google Quantum AI. They tackle the (logical) Shor algorithm, tailoring it to crack Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. The algorithm runs on ~1K logical qubits for the 256-bit elliptic curve secp256k1. Due to the low circuit depth, a fast superconducting computer would recover private keys in minutes. I'm grateful to have joined as a late paper co-author, in large part for the chance to interact with experts and the alpha gleaned from internal discussions. The second paper is by a stealthy startup called Oratomic, with ex-Google and prominent Caltech faculty. Their starting point is Google's improvements to the logical quantum circuit. They then apply improvements at the physical layer, with tricks specific to neutral atom quantum computers. The result estimates that 26,000 atomic qubits are sufficient to break 256-bit elliptic curve signatures. This would be roughly a 40x improvement in physical qubit count over previous state-of-the-art. On the flip side, a single Shor run would take ~10 days due to the relatively slow speed of neutral atoms. Below are my key takeaways. As a disclaimer, I am not a quantum expert. Time is needed for the results to be properly vetted. Based on my interactions with the team, I have faith the Google Quantum AI results are conservative. The Oratomic paper is much harder for me to assess, especially because of the use of more exotic qLDPC codes. I will take it with a grain of salt until the dust settles. → q-day: My confidence in q-day by 2032 has shot up significantly. IMO there's at least a 10% chance that by 2032 a quantum computer recovers a secp256k1 ECDSA private key from an exposed public key. While a cryptographically-relevant quantum computer (CRQC) before 2030 still feels unlikely, now is undoubtedly the time to start preparing. → censorship: The Google paper uses a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof to demonstrate the algorithm's existence without leaking actual optimisations. From now on, assume state-of-the-art algorithms will be censored. There may be self-censorship for moral or commercial reasons, or because of government pressure. A blackout in academic publications would be a tell-tale sign. → cracking time: A superconducting quantum computer, the type Google is building, could crack keys in minutes. This is because the optimised quantum circuit is just 100M Toffoli gates, which is surprisingly shallow. (Toffoli gates are hard because they require production of so-called "magic states".) Toffoli gates would consume ~10 microseconds on a superconducting platform, totalling ~1,000 sec of Shor runtime. → latency optimisations: Two latency optimisations bring key cracking time to single-digit minutes. The first parallelises computation across quantum devices. The second involves feeding the pubkey to the quantum computer mid-flight, after a generic setup phase. → fast- and slow-clock: At first approximation there are two families of quantum computers. The fast-clock flavour, which includes superconducting and photonic architectures, runs at roughly 100 kHz. The slow-clock flavour, which includes trapped ion and neutral atom architectures, runs roughly 1,000x slower (~100 Hz, or ~1 week to crack a single key). → qubit count: The size-optimised variant of the algorithm runs on 1,200 logical qubits. On a superconducting computer with surface code error correction that's roughly 500K physical qubits, a 400:1 physical-to-logical ratio. The surface code is conservative, assuming only four-way nearest-neighbour grid connectivity. It was demonstrated last year by Google on a real quantum computer. → future gains: Low-hanging fruit is still being picked, with at least one of the Google optimisations resulting from a surprisingly simple observation. Interestingly, AI was not (yet!) tasked to find optimisations. This was also the first time authors such as Craig Gidney attacked elliptic curves (as opposed to RSA). Shor logical qubit count could plausibly go under 1K soonish. → error correction: The physical-to-logical ratio for superconducting computers could go under 100:1. For superconducting computers that would be mean ~100K physical qubits for a CRQC, two orders of magnitude away from state of the art. Neutral atoms quantum computers are amenable to error correcting codes other than the surface code. While much slower to run, they can bring down the physical to logical qubit ratio closer to 10:1. → Bitcoin PoW: Commercially-viable Bitcoin PoW via Grover's algorithm is not happening any time soon. We're talking decades, possibly centuries away. This observation should help focus the discussion on ECDSA and Schnorr. (Side note: as unofficial Bitcoin security researcher, I still believe Bitcoin PoW is cooked due to the dwindling security budget.) → team quality: The folks at Google Quantum AI are the real deal. Craig Gidney (@CraigGidney) is arguably the world's top quantum circuit optimisooor. Just last year he squeezed 10x out of Shor for RSA, bringing the physical qubit count down from 10M to 1M. Special thanks to the Google team for patiently answering all my newb questions with detailed, fact-based answers. I was expecting some hype, but found none.
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John Nash Institute (London)
Satoshi highlights why naïve "democratic" alternatives collapse the assumptions underlying Nash-style fair bargaining: without robustly approximating unique persons, symmetry can't hold so fair consensus and cooperation unravel into manipulation. x.com/famous_ideal/s…
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This leads to a reduction to 21 equations, and we did most of our work on calculations with these 21 equations since that level of symmetry was enough to yield differentiation among the various value concepts that could be compared. John F Nash Jr., 2008 buff.ly/3PH02vo

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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
@king_saroon observation: you start talking with birds, touching trees, smiling silently when you feel & hear them
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♚Saroo♚
♚Saroo♚@king_saroon·
GN 🌙 Three observations for slower days • What you tolerate keeps teaching your future • You can outgrow a role without becoming ungrateful • Rest does not cancel ambition Reply with your own 👇
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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
So. The 42/21-equation system was a computational tool Nash used to find evolutionarily stable cooperative behaviors in a three-player setting—showing how symmetry and repetition can support stable coalitions? And the 2008 Agency paper helps us to read / understand the full meaning of that in the context of todays Agentic AI context.
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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
🐔🏔️🍄‍🟫👨‍🌾 news! The secret N supplement is here. We will finally have a Taiga substrate recipe that beats the southern industry standard oak+soy in bio efficiency.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
In a deep recession scenario, prioritize antifragility for your fungi operation: mushrooms excel as low-input, high-nutrition food grown on local waste—demand for affordable staples holds up better than luxuries. Cut non-core fixed costs and optimize processes without full scale-down. Shift to artisan/direct-to-community sales, dehydrate for storage/value-add, and strengthen bio-regional networks. Keep accelerating efficiency and diversification; resilient local systems gain traction when global chains strain. You're positioned well—lean into that.
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Mehdi (e/λ)
Mehdi (e/λ)@BetterCallMedhi·
a nuclear scientist just got killed in an airstrike in Iran and honestly i need to talk about this because western media won't & i think most people don't understand what they're looking at as i've been explaining for weeks now in multiple threads, Israel through Mossad has been assassinating Iranian scientists for over a decade and i genuinely think the Fakhrizadeh case is one of the most terrifying operations in modern intelligence history this man was killed in 2020 by a remote controlled ai-powered machine gun smuggled into Iran in pieces over several months, the whole thing weighed a ton, it was mounted on a pickup truck on the side of the road and operated via satellite from a Mossad command center 1 600 km away, 15 bullets fired in under 60 seconds, the AI compensated for the satellite delay the recoil and the speed of the car in real time, that's how far they're willing to go to eliminate Iranian brainpower one by one but here's what i find fascinating, the assassinations didn't break the ecosystem because it runs too deep, so they escalated, US just bombed Iran's university of science and technology, one of the oldest and most prestigious in the country and if you've been following me you already know why this matters these are the same institutions that took Iran from 58th to 4th in the world in nanotechnology in 20y that produce the engineers who designed the Arvand rocket engine and the maneuverable reentry vehicles, that trained the physicists behind the MRBM to IRBM leap to 4 000 km on Diego Garcia, i've been writing about this scientific ecosystem for years and everything happening right now is the logical continuation of what i already laid out and i think that's the part nobody wants to say out loud, this war was never about nukes or regime change, i believe it's about dismantling the only sovereign state in the Middle East and i mean the ONLY ONE look at every other country in the region, Saudi Arabia outsources its entire defense to the Pentagon & couldn't fight a war in Yemen for 8y without American logistics and still lost, the UAE bought F-35s in exchange for normalizing with Israel, Qatar hosts the largest US air base in the region at Al Udeid, Bahrain hosts the US Fifth fleet, Kuwait, Iraq Jordan are military protectorates in everything but name none of these countries design manufacture or deploy their own weapons systems, none of them have an indigenous defense industry, their sovereignty ends where the next Lockheed Martin contract begins, if Washington calls tomorrow and says stop they stop because they literally cannot function without american hardware Iran is the ONLY country in that entire region that built everything from scratch under 40y of total embargo because NOBODY would sell them anything and that's exactly why they're the target they know the only way to stop this machine is to kill the people who build it…and when killing them one by one wasn't enough to crack an ecosystem too deep to break, they started bombing the universities directly and i'll say this as clearly as i can you don't bomb a university when you're winning a war, you bomb a university when you've realized the real threat was never the arsenal it was the intelligence behind it and you have no idea how to stop it
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BREAKING 🔴 Reports that a nuclear scientist was killed in an airstrike in Dorud, Lorestan Province, Iran.

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Mehdi (e/λ)
Mehdi (e/λ)@BetterCallMedhi·
you can intercept a missile, you can shoot down a drone, you can destroy a launch site and they’ll rebuild it in weeks but you can’t intercept a generation of engineers & physicists coming out of a university every single year that’s the one thing sanctions couldn’t stop, assassinations couldn’t stop and apparently bombs can’t stop either because they’ve been trying all three for 40y and Iran just hit Diego Garcia at 4000 km with a missile nobody knew they had i’ve said it before and i’ll keep saying it, the most dangerous weapon Iran has is sitting in a classroom rn
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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
Deep global recession? if yes: Am I ready? how to take a fungi business through it? Scale down the fixed costs (and the prod processes)? Back to lab scale? Artesan Fungi Farmer? Dehydrate the whole project? Or just keep accelerating? @Grok please advice: what is the right fungi farmer logic when he sees a potential deep recession on his radar?
StockMarket.News@_Investinq

The head of Europe's central bank just went on record and said financial markets don't understand what they're in for (Save this). This is Christine Lagarde saying the damage is already done, and most people have no idea. Here is what she actually said. The US and Israel struck Iran on and within days, Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow chokepoint that carries roughly 20% of the world's oil and natural gas. Markets shrugged and investors assumed it would blow over fast but Lagarde says that assumption is dangerously wrong. She told The Economist that technical experts are not talking about months for a recovery, they are talking about years. The infrastructure, extraction, refineries, distribution networks has already taken damage that cannot simply be rebuilt on a short timeline. Then she dropped a detail most investors have completely missed, Helium travels through the Strait of Hormuz. Helium is the invisible ingredient inside every advanced microchip on earth. It cools the machines, purges the chambers, and delivers the precision modern semiconductors depend on. Qatar supplies roughly 35% of the world's commercial helium and Qatar's facilities have gone dark. Helium spot prices have already surged past $450 per thousand cubic feet and most chip fabricators carry less than three months of inventory. The world is building AI data centers at record speed, and the raw material that makes those chips possible is suddenly scarce. Meanwhile, Brent crude has already hit $99 a barrel, with earlier spikes past $120 and gasoline in the U.S. has jumped over 30% since the war began. Iraq has cut 1.5 million barrels per day while Saudi Arabia paused its largest refinery. Europe is now staring at a second energy crisis with gas storage at just 30% capacityheading into this. And the ECB, rather than cutting rates to soften the blow, is now considering hiking rates to fight the inflation surge. This means a slow economy, rising prices and tightening monetary policy, all at once. Lagarde's core warning is this, markets are not pricing in reality.

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Mohamad Safa
Mohamad Safa@mhdksafa·
The United States has just bombed Iran power plants, leaving hospitals and homes without electricity for millions of people. Thinking about dialysis patients, babies in NICU, and others. People will die. Innocent children will die. This is a crime against humanity.
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Jouko Salonen
Jouko Salonen@MycelFi·
👍😊👍 Yes! The 1973 and 1976 papers of J.M Smith and G.R Price were imo interesting versions of the idea of Nash equilibrium, bcz they tried to show the importance of cross generational and thus population level stability rather than rational choice & highest possible payoff.
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John Nash Institute (London)
Game theory without evolution is static. Add evolution for rich dynamics; strategies can emerge, stabilize, branch into polymorphism, cycle, or go extinct. Satoshi and Nash were both familiar, Bitcoin being a good example. x.com/famous_ideal/s…
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"So this equilibrium concept is quite parallel to the concept of equilibrium under evolutionary pressures (or “natural selection”) in Nature." John F Nash Jr., Studying Cooperative Games Using the Method of Agencies, 2008 buff.ly/2V53wfv

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