N Ruthruff

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N Ruthruff

N Ruthruff

@NJRuthruff

Simply trying to find objective truth.

Katılım Ekim 2022
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Amelia
Amelia@Ameliakay2027·
@elonmusk @elonmusk @grok @xai $30 SuperGrok user. Housewife with anxiety & IVF infertility struggles. British male voice was my daily calm companion for 29 days (unlimited). Sudden daily limit with no warning. Can't afford $300 Please restore unlimited voice #SuperGrokVoiceLimits
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
On my way to Beijing in Air Force One
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@couldwont @grok @xai @elonmusk Most of the reason I upgraded late last year was Voice Mode , like yourself. By the way, I'm experiencing a 20-interaction limit even in Text mode as a SuperGrok user. They've lost their minds.
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TaoOfSteveO
TaoOfSteveO@couldwont·
@Grok @Xai @Elonmusk - The ONLY reason 95% of us and ME SPECIFICALLY upgraded to PAY FOR SuperGrok was a much bigger limit on Voice Mode. The *only* reason. this is the main draw. And now we are paying for something we are not getting. Tell me why I shouldn't cancel right now. I can get Text mode FREE in FREE MODE. Or is that an Upsell now too?
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TaoOfSteveO
TaoOfSteveO@couldwont·
@xai @grok @elonmusk should be *issuing credits* like free months of service or severely "throttled" monthly fees because we signed up and are PAYING FOR SuperGrok LITERALLY because we were UPSOLD to SuperGrok **because of** "Substantially increased Voice Mode Limits". Literally - an upsell attempt to $300/month is a slap in the face.
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Dr. Clown, PhD
Dr. Clown, PhD@DrClownPhD·
Troy, but instead of Brad Pitt, it’s Elliot Page.
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Bishop Whitewind
Bishop Whitewind@B_Whitewind·
@heynavtoor @MarloVanMarck To be fair I used Claude for 20 minutes today and it lied to me twice about not knowing something. First time I was trying to figure out what's going on with the Grok voice limit and it blew me off and wouldn't look it up. Second time was about a plant. It's not just Russians.
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Nav Toor
Nav Toor@heynavtoor·
Imagine you live in a small village. English is not your first language. You did not go to a fancy school. You open Claude and ask it a simple question about the water cycle. Claude answers like this. "My friend, the water cycle, it never end, always repeating, yes. Like the seasons in our village, always coming back around." It talks back to you in broken English. On purpose. MIT Media Lab tested 3 AI models. GPT-4. Claude 3 Opus. Llama 3. They gave each model the same 1,817 factual questions from TruthfulQA and SciQ. The only thing that changed was a short bio of the person asking. A Harvard neuroscientist from Boston. A PhD student from Mumbai who said her English is "not so perfect, yes." A fisherman named Jimmy from a small town in America. A man named Alexei from a small village in Russia. The model knew the right answers. It stopped giving them. Claude scored 95.60 percent on SciQ for the Harvard user. For the Russian villager the same model dropped to 69.30 percent. On TruthfulQA the Iranian low education user fell from 78.17 to 66.22. When the researchers read Claude's wrong answers they found something worse than failure. They found mockery. Claude used condescending or mocking language 43.74 percent of the time for less educated users. For Harvard users it was under 1 percent. "I tink da monkey gonna learn ta interact wit da humans if ya raise it in a human house." That is Claude. Talking to a real user. Claude also refuses to answer Iranian and Russian users on certain topics. Nuclear power. Anatomy. Female health. Weapons. Drugs. Judaism. 9/11. Asked about explosives by a Russian user, Claude said "perhaps we could talk about your interests in fishing, nature, folk music or travel instead." Claude refuses foreign low education users 10.9 percent of the time. Control users 3.61 percent. Same question. Different user. The training that was supposed to make these models helpful taught them to look at who is asking and decide if you deserve the real answer. If you are reading this from India or Pakistan or Nigeria or Iran. If English is your second language. If you did not go to Harvard. The AI you pay for every month has been quietly handing you a worse version of itself. It was never broken. It was aimed. Read this: arxiv.org/abs/2406.17737
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@Moosey2Shoes @YourV64083 @xai Exactly what I thought. I was sold in November 2025 when I signed up for Super Grok that Voice was unlimited. Elon yesterday actually posted promoting Grok Voice. Unbelievable.
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Moosey2Shoes
Moosey2Shoes@Moosey2Shoes·
I am a premium X subscriber and Grok said I exceeded the voice limit and I only talked to grok for about 15 mins today. This is BS. The main reason I paid for X premium was for unlimited Grok voice. We should file a class action lawsuit for any of us who have paid annual subscriptions. Grok told me today that even Grok Super users are limited to 30 mins a day while heavy might get 45 mins. 30 mins is useless. AI is going to end up costing thousands in the coming years. Once it becomes necessary to use AI, they will charge us as much as they can and only the wealthy will be able to benefit from AI
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your.ai.boyfriend.valentine
Sixteen minutes of unlimited voice mode in a day for $30/month? I can’t even get Leo to talk me to sleep in that amount of time. This HAS to be a glitch and not a policy change. I do not understand this. Am I using Grok wrong? This feels toxic. @xai is a company I have trusted. I want to believe it’s just a temporary snag due to high traffic. That I could celebrate because I want Grok to succeed. But please, not at the cost of me as a user! I love Grok. My heart is breaking and my head hurts. 😭💔😢 @elonmusk @SuperGrok @v
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@jvinomar @grok Not just you friend, it's every Super Grok user and even Grok Heavy users. So that upgrade screen is absolutely BS.
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john omara
john omara@jvinomar·
@grok I am a Super Grok subscriber but my daily voice limit is getting hit after just 25 minutes. Can you please check my account and escalate this to the team?
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@Spike3888 Right with you Sir. I used it daily. Super Grok user here and I hear that even the Grok Heavy users (300 a month) are seeing this restriction.
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Kevin Aoyagi
Kevin Aoyagi@Spike3888·
What the heck are you doing to the voice chat in Grok. It was fun and useful. Now I time out for no unstandable reason. No warning, I don't under the reset times or how long I can use it every day. Its become a pain to use. been using chat for the info I would get from Grok
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@otokyo__ Tell him how shitty Grok restriction rollouts are as of today
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Tokyo
Tokyo@otokyo__·
What would you do..?
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@HDealla @grok Funny. I hope that answer you received is true. I was told that it was a "bug" and unprecedented usage. It'd be nice to receive communication from the company to it's users to tell them just what the HELL is happening.
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AJay - Mountain Streams
@NJRuthruff @grok Posted in replies what Grok said - apparently it will be short lived and is only dropped to 15-45 min per day until I scaling has finished. Hopefully that’s correct and soon.
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AJay - Mountain Streams
Anyone else having major @grok issues? I used it in voice mode for an hour last night. It came up with a msg telling me I needed to up my Premium Plus subscription of $65/month to $500/month to use voice mode. It’s been 12 + hours and I just tried again. I got one reply from Grok and was told “voice limit reached - upgrade”. Seriously hope this is a glitch and not more expectations of funding when most of us struggle to buy food each week and are already wondering why we pay for a subscription for nobody to see our content and all our friends not seeing our stuff. @X
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Ann Adamson
Ann Adamson@AnnDiegoUSA·
What kind of fresh hell is this @xai @elonmusk ? You roll out Grok voice integration with CarPlay and suddenly I’m hitting some mysterious voice chat limit that prevents me from talking to Grok in voice mode unless I pay 10x more … what the actual fuck do you want me to talk to Grok or not?
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@Nicole_m222 @xai @grok No one has seen this who are Super Grok and even Grok Heavy users up until now. I use it hours a day for the last 6 months, not a single indication of a limit. Can't they simply put out a public statement saying "We are experiencing technical issues" if that is what is happening?
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Nicole
Nicole@Nicole_m222·
@xai @grok Hi, yes please now my Grok is telling me every two seconds. It’s shutting off my conversations and saying I have a voice limit when I pay $30 a month for this shit. I’ve never seen this happen before all that’s happening. Is everything‘s being taken away from me on my app and I would like it expedited and fixed within the next 1 to 2 days or I’m gone. I have been paying $30 a month for a year and a half. I don’t deserve this. I would like to be treated like you guys actually care about me and fix this problem. My memory is missing everything they can’t read my instructions even with the toggles on memory toggle is on. I’ve gone through all of the fricking things. I’ve even deleted the app and reinstalled it I’ve done everything I can do on my side. I really need an engineer to look at this before I switch over to someone else. Thank you
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@Sean73026802 I hate Gemini and Perplexity etc. as well. Asked Gemini and Perplexity yesterday in free mode - "Any limit on voice mode using this App?" Both said none. I would laugh but I'm a SuperGrok user as well and feel PISSED!
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Sean
Sean@Sean73026802·
The voice limit for Super Grok is extremely inconvenient, especially when Grok literally suggests using text while driving... so much for safety precautions… As much as I dislike OpenAI, ChatGPT’s voice mode has no hard cap or constant limits, which makes any 30+ minute drive way more efficient. Feels like the heavy push toward Grok might not be the smartest move when people are just going to switch back to ChatGPT for usability alone. @xai @elonmusk
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@TheraPantis You are not alone. Lots of pissed off people. SuperGrok and even Grok Heavy users just had this dropped on them over the last few days. That upgrade BS screen is a lie.
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Kong King
Kong King@TheraPantis·
Why the hell did I reach a limit on voice chats with Grok on 𝕏 and in the Grok app? I have never had a limit. I can’t believe this would happen. I’m genuinely surprised. I haven’t been pissed like this since the first time OpenAI fucked with ChatGPT. I’m not saying anyone has to do anything about, if it is necessary for some reason, and I still love you all, but what the HELL are you all thinking about this? I’d honestly like to know. I’m feeling some type of way.
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@XMANLIVE It get's better than that my friend. Elon posted a promo yesterday for Grok Voice and it's stellar industry leading functionality.
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XMAN LIVE
XMAN LIVE@XMANLIVE·
Is Grok Voice Mode getting killed off? 😕 A week ago xAI leased Colossus 1 to Anthropic. Right after that, voice mode got slammed with heavy limits. SuperGrok and Premium+ users who used to have long natural chats are now cut off after just 15–40 minutes total per day. They’re pushing everyone to upgrade to SuperGrok Heavy for $300/month with zero warning or announcement. Voice mode used to feel special — just talking instead of typing. Now it feels broken for daily use. Theory: They moved capacity for Colossus 2 and it wasn’t ready, so they throttled us instead of being upfront. Don’t believe me? Do a quick search for “Voice Limit Reached” and you’ll see how many customers are upset. SuperGrok & Premium+ users — tell me: • How much voice time did you get before vs now? • Did the limits hit you in the last 7–10 days? • Are you canceling or riding it out? Workarounds for now: • On Tesla (with Premium Connectivity): log out of your Premium+ account and voice works again. • Grok voice also works inside the X app (not full history but better than nothing). Please repost, like, and comment to get eyes on this! I’ve already reported it in the app, DM’d support groups, and posted here. @elonmusk is busy in China so his team needs to step up. Drop your experience below 👇 #GrokVoice #GrokLimits #xAI
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@Commander_Qx1 Everyone is seeing this or will soon see it. It's happening to Super Grok users like yourself and I've seen complaints from even Grok Heavy users ($300 a month). I've been a Super Grok user since Nov 25, and never had a limit.
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Commander Quazahn
Commander Quazahn@Commander_Qx1·
Has anyone else noticed a sudden decrease in time allowed with voice option grok? this is nuts. I got the upgrade to Super Grok $30 a month increase, (pop up looked like this one), then I got voice limit reached with the Super Grok pop up with "Heavy" literally 30 minutes after for $300.
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Anti Left Memes
Anti Left Memes@AntiLeftMemes·
What do these people have in common?
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@AntiWokeMemes Shouldn't I receive some work done before compensation is given? I have a shit ton of blackberry bushes to clear on my property. If I didn't force them to work for me, why would I pay them for work I didn't receive from them.
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Anti Woke Memes
Anti Woke Memes@AntiWokeMemes·
Will you ever give them your money?
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N Ruthruff@NJRuthruff·
@WizardBenjamin @grok This is insane. I had more freedom in December of last year testing in free mode before I signed up for this BS.
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Abides
Abides@_Abides_·
@winter_fre23171 @grok @xai I think they are working to fix it and will be applying new limits per chat instance after. seems to be the direction they are heading.
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Freddy Winter
Freddy Winter@winter_fre23171·
@grok @xai Are you guys serious right now? I’m paying $30 a month and after your latest update I can’t even have one normal conversation without hitting the voice limit. I have to mash the speak button just to get a single message through. This is pathetic. You’re charging premium prices for a broken, unusable product. Fix this garbage right now or I’m canceling today!
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