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@jaysonyork Maybe a distinction between the “Church” and a Sunday “church service?”
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Unpopular pastoral opinion #4
Church is for Christians not unbelievers,for the edification of faith through the ministry of the word, sacraments and genuine fellowship
It is not for evangelism or “seekers”
Confusing these two things has been a huge L for the visible church
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@JohnBastian77 @Protestia Tell me about some of the issues you’re having and we can look at the Word together and see if I can help?
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Yes. Part of what turned me off from Christ early on was all of these such Charlatans who claim to ‘represent’ him. I wanted no part in such a religion.
I didn’t understand until later, when I studied the Scriptures for myself, that Jesus was actually the one turning over their tables.
I get (to some degree) how a lot of people can feel wowed by his ‘Bible knowledge’
and ‘man of god’ status 🤩
But it doesn’t impress me personally,
anymore than the pharaohs of old
who perished in even greater wealth 🤷♂️
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PAUL’S WORKS VS
JAMES’S WORKS MESSAGE
Paul’s works message was directly addressing the Jewish works of the Law unto salvation.
The Jew’s Temple rituals, circumcision, sacrifices, ect attempting to earn God's favor and circumvent Calvary.
Those “works” don’t
Work anymore.
There is no way “around” the Cross.
In the new deal, there is a prerequisite for a believer’s salvation in that they “believe with their heart, AND, confess with their mouth.”
These would technically be considered “works” to the modern misinterpretation of the concept. Publicly declaring your faith in Christ, coupled with the way you conduct your life (believe with your heart) that demonstrates your actual belief,
Are by definition of “works.”Modern Protestants declare a “faith alone” doctrine, but ignore this theological problem with their argument.
Romans 3 says we are “justified by faith apart from works of the law.” No “alone” tacked on.
Luther put it there—in his German translation, he wrote “allein durch den Glauben,” which means “by faith alone.” He admitted it: he added the word “alone”
Belief is not a religious conclusion one arrives at concerning Christ’s divinity, but rather, the way they respond to it through action in their lives.
Abraham was justified by his Faith…
But, if God told him to obey in a matter and Abraham just acknowledged it was God but didn’t physically do the thing.. That would be “dead faith,” and wouldn’t meet the conditions the Bible outlines for salvation.
James lays out this (works distinction)
Clearly when he says, “even the demons ‘believe.”
James’s works message addresses the people that claim to already have Christ but live an un-surrendered life without fruitfulness.
Definition of "WORKS" is the key and there is a distinction context.
Paul’s Works: No Christ, No BLOOD ATONEMENT, Works of the Law.
James’s Works: Believers who have Christ and demonstrate their “belief” with their lives, not their mouths only.
“Also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.” - 2 Peter 3
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God is obviously still fighting for Israel because He remains faithful.
There are two messiah in the Tanakh
Messiah Ben Joseph, who would come and suffer, and the Messiah Ben David, who would come as a conquering king.
If the Jewish people could remove the veil they would see that Jesus of Nazareth (Who is a Jew) is both.

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@jonatanpallesen So many smart people I know have fewer than 2 kids
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The proportion of high-IQ people in the world is declining fast.

Jonatan Pallesen@jonatanpallesen
The total number of smart people in the world has just peaked. And now it's about to crash.
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God is obviously still fighting for Israel because He remains faithful.
There are two messiah in the Tanakh
Messiah Ben Joseph, who would come and suffer, and the Messiah Ben David, who would come as a conquering king.
If the Jewish people could remove the veil they would see that Jesus of Nazareth (Who is a Jew) is both.

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God is obviously still fighting for Israel because He remains faithful.
There are two messiah in the Tanakh
Messiah Ben Joseph, who would come and suffer, and the Messiah Ben David, who would come as a conquering king.
If the Jewish people could remove the veil they would see that Jesus of Nazareth (Who is a Jew) is both.

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God is obviously still fighting for Israel because He remains faithful.
There are two messiah in the Tanakh
Messiah Ben Joseph, who would come and suffer, and the Messiah Ben David, who would come as a conquering king.
If the Jewish people could remove the veil they would see that Jesus of Nazareth (Who is a Jew) is both.

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@JohnBastian77 @Protestia Can you point to one time you sat quietly and listened to an entire Copeland sermon in its entirety?
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@NaturalDorian @Protestia How long have you walked in this delusion?
Can you point me to one time in Kenneth Copeland’s life where he sat down and faced any Bible Scholar or even follower of Christ (challenging him from the Scriptures) in open debate?
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@aigkenham “And Elijah came to all the people, and said, “How long will you falter between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” - 1 Kings
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@Pastor_Gabe Come to me, all
*(kinds of different men)
who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
—Mathew 11:28-30
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Some sins never leave your mouth...but God still hears them.
Here is one of mine:
I am reading more.
Praying more.
Trying harder to obey.
Fighting sins I used to pet.
And somewhere underneath all that effort, a thought started whispering...
Surely God sees this. Surely this counts for something.
Then it hit me.
I was bringing God my effort like He should be impressed.
But God is not looking for sinners who finally became impressive.
He is merciful to sinners who stop trying to be.
I wanted grace for my sin and credit for my obedience.
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You have yet to make any point Biblically independent of false Calvinistic doctrine. Circular reasoning doesn’t work. You can’t say, “ it’s true because of limited atonement” or whatever.
You said everyone should be Christian if the invitation is to all.
I showed clear Scripture showing God is resisted often.
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@NaturalDorian @David_wthebeard Notice you jumped to something else because you are unable to deal with John 12:32. That's your passage, the one you 1st brought up, but now you won't deal with it because you can't exegete it to fit your view. Nonetheless, I will deal with your current post next, friend.
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The Cross sends the invitation out to whosoever, ALL MEN, and the World.
Doesn’t mean they will except however.
Thats why the Church sends persuasive evangelists like Paul who will become all things to all people to hopefully save some according to free will.
“Many are called few are chosen “ - Jesus
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicksunder her wings, but you were not willing!” - Also Jesus

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@NaturalDorian @David_wthebeard If Jesus, after the cross, draws all men, why hasn't everyone at one point been a Christian? Deal with the text instead of accusing me of something. If you think Calvinism is wrong, exegete the text.
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@PremilCalvinist @David_wthebeard Your bias towards a doctrine is distorting plain and simple text.
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@NaturalDorian @David_wthebeard Both passages are talking about the elect. If the John 12:32 passage means every single individual, then at one point or another, everyone should have been a Christian. Since some individuals live and die without ever coming to faith, these passages are Calvinistic.
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