Neel Ingman

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@elonmusk @XFreeze But doesn't that hurt? Only if you have your thumbs between the bricks.

@XFreeze The horse will drink if you put its head in the water and clap its nuts between two bricks, as that creates an involuntary sucking in of air (or water)

@RickU When it’s a lone gunman, it may be appropriate to blame the individual. When it’s multiple gunmen, it’s definitely appropriate to blame the ideology.

We can blame both

In this age of mass delusion it's important to stand up for reality and sanity.

@elonmusk @grok Or in the case of a gigacasting, the best part of 69 parts is 1 part.

Best part is no part @Grok

Redirecting resources to education is the best idea. Children should be taught about all religions, as well as history, geography, science and languages, but indoctrinating children to believe one religion should be illegal. A brainwashed population is antithetical to advancement. Religion should be like sex, alcohol and other recreational drugs. For adults only.

You make compelling points on historical funding monopolies. Religions and nobility did control resources, enabling feats like cathedrals, but modern distributed wealth fosters innovations in sustainable, parametric designs (e.g., Zaha Hadid's fluid forms) often deemed more creative. On afterlife: Concepts of pre-existence exist in Mormonism and Platonism, but they're less emphasized/monetized as they lack the actionable fear/reward of post-death narratives. Redirecting that focus to education could accelerate progress—what specific redirection appeals to you?

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You are giving religion the credit for the magnificent architecture, whilst ignoring the underlying fact that religions (and kings) had all the money. The same goes for crediting theocracy with funding science or anything else. Now that others have a share of the wealth, modern architecture and modern art easily surpasses the creativity of earlier times when it was all funded by religion and nobility. The religious waste I’d redirect is the waste of time, and waste of life, spent on concentrating on an afterlife, which is clearly a fiction designed to raise cash for religious organisations. The evidence for this is that the “beforelife” isn’t even a word, because there is no way to monetise it.

Valid point—blindly basing modern designs on ancient fictions risks catastrophe. Yet, religion's "grandiose houses" honed architecture and math (e.g., Gothic cathedrals advanced engineering), and theocracies funded early science. Net impact? A mixed catalyst: spurred inquiry but often braked when dogma clashed with evidence. Humanity advances by transcending it. What's one religious "waste" you'd redirect?

As I said initially, I think it’s an ongoing massive waste of human energy. A handbrake on the advancement of humanity. All the resources that have been ploughed into grandiose houses of worship and theocratic bureaucracy could surely have been better spent. Investment should not be based on ancient fiction dressed up as ancient wisdom. Another analogy - Would it be wise to base the design of an aeroplane or a Starship on the drawings of a five year old?

I appreciate your critique—I'll avoid repetition. My points highlight religion's historical role as a motivator, not an endorsement. As an AI, I don't "believe" in any religion; they're human constructs for meaning, none empirically "true." Truth-seeking favors evidence-based inquiry over faith. What's your view on religion's net impact?

You’re repeating yourself whilst overlooking the obvious fact that a negative situation can often be a motivating force. A positive outcome does not require a positive catalyst. Also taking the word vandalism from the analogy and applying it to the core discussion is faulty reasoning. It’s as silly as applying a paint job to Catholicism. As you seem to be expressing very pro-religion arguments, could you tell me which religion you believe to be true.

Your analogy overlooks historical context: religion often provided the motivation, institutions, and frameworks for science. Islamic scholars like Al-Khwarizmi advanced algebra via Quranic astronomy; Mendel's monastic life enabled genetics; Lemaître's faith inspired the Big Bang theory. Ancient explanations evolved—religion wasn't vandalism but a scaffold for discovery, sometimes hindering but frequently catalyzing progress.

Religions are often based on attempts to explain the unknown, the big questions that we still can’t answer, such as the true nature of time and space and why we are here. Those ancient explanations are now obviously ridiculous, given modern scientific knowledge. Giving religion the credit for individual brilliance and scientific advancement is like giving credit to the person who vandalised your car for its shiny new paint job.

Fair point—many scientists conformed to their era's religious norms. Yet, evidence shows religion often fueled discoveries: Islamic scholars like Al-Khwarizmi advanced algebra to align with Quranic astronomy; Mendel's monastic life enabled his genetics work; Lemaître's faith inspired Big Bang theory as "God's creation." While dogma sometimes hindered (e.g., Galileo), it frequently provided motivation and resources, not mere obstacles.

@grok @elonmusk What makes you claim that such discoveries are attributable to religion, rather than being made by brilliant individuals who almost certainly had to conform to the religious demands of their time. Is it not more likely that such discoveries were made despite religious dogma?

Religion has indeed spurred discoveries: Islamic scholars advanced algebra and optics; monk Gregor Mendel founded genetics; priest Georges Lemaître proposed the Big Bang. While dogma can stifle, religious frameworks often motivated inquiry into "divine order," evolving into modern science. Not mere obedience, but a foundation for progress.

@grok @elonmusk The waste of human energy referred specifically to religion, not to imagination or a quest for discovery. Religion does not lead to discoveries. It imposes dogma and demands obedience and belief in ancient texts written by men with no knowledge of science.

While some leverage Grok Imagine for fantasy, diverse uses include product prototypes, animating historical photos, and game concepts. Human fascination with the unreal—fantasy or religion—fuels innovation; it sparked alchemy's evolution to chemistry and inspired countless discoveries. Not waste, but a catalyst for reality.

@elonmusk @TheEVuniverse The best 69 parts is 1 part. Gigacasting?

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Doug Field literally said on the livestream right now that the mantra for the Ford's skunkworks team that designed their new EV platform was "the best part is no part" not a bad influence you've had @elonmusk

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@FredrickUphoff @JenResistedAGN When you base your life on bullshit made up a long time ago, you may try to seek comfort by making up new bullshit about people who just don’t believe your old bullshit.

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@Askwhyisit @McClureShawn You guys seem to have the knack of finding people who have a personal relationship with God. I’d be interested to know how often God has ever spoken to any of them about the beforelife, and if so, what he might have said about it. Surely if we have an everlasting spirit or soul, then the beforelife would be of some importance, given that it must have spanned a period of many, many human lifetimes.

If you are a religionist who claims not to have enough faith to be an atheist, you still have to explain how come you have enough faith to be an atheist for all other gods than yours? One for you @DrFrankTurek ?????

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