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A good liar (advertiser, ageist, censor, hæretic, populist, sexist, theist, vegetarian) is a dead liar. no faketh. no voting. no parties. no presidents. no soap operas.
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Antigone A.P. (Alysdexic)
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Antigone A.P. (Alysdexic)
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⋇ Hypatia's revenge. ⋇ 0, 2, 6, 12, 20, 30, 42; 1, 3, 7, 13, 21, 31, 43; 2, 4, 8 Idols: William James Sidis, Willard Gibbs, Alison Sudol, Panabaker sisters.
She/Her ⋇ Acsiofascist Katılım Temmuz 2016
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@Will63541 @oneGReatvegan Vegetarians suffer from their own cancers, heart disease, tooth/bone decay, obesity, diabètes, hives, shock, antinutrients; their mortality rate exceeds omnivores' when not health-conciose for both groups (veg fakery is harder). No vegetarian-centenarian-from-birth cohort exists.
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@Will63541 @oneGReatvegan Control for these & the all-cause mortality gap mostly disappears (EPIC-Oxford mort.; Mihrshahi et al., 2017 PM). Vegetarians lower iskhæmic heart disease but ~+20% stroke, +43% hæmorrhagic stroke, & vegans ~+43% fracture risk (Tong et al., 2019 BMJ; Tong et al., 2020 BMC Med).
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If you’re still eating animals in 2026 you’re choosing habit over health and calling it normal.
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@gnashgnashing @VeganSupremeTM "Murder more harmful than rape" is a fake ranking; both may be wrongs by sovereignty violation, not harm calculus. Yer pivot from teens to dogs shows you hav no argument, just a bait progression. Dolt.
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@gnashgnashing @VeganSupremeTM Yer second strawman: bestiality is licensed sith "observed in nature." That's the same naturalistic fallacy you started with: capability != license. Animals don't consent in any frame that makes consent meaningful sith they lack the cognitive structures to do so.
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Going vegan is easy. All you need is a degree in nutrition, a degree in environmental science, a degree in psychology, memorize several statistics and studies, be skilled at debate, waste time engaging with people who will never change their mind. It's great.
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@toldmeitwaswar "Not gonna cite nothing" = gonna cite something (double negative). Citations fit in a post or tweet; you choose not to. Cite or shut up.
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@LateoRT @SOPHONTSIMP The language of "inherent moral value" presupposes one or the other. I hold these views sith I'm anti-realist; one can hold them on other grounds, but the realist framing is itself the categhory error.
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@LateoRT @SOPHONTSIMP Granted: meta-ethic stanse & normative content aren't tihtly coupled. But moral realism's the scam: non-naturalist versions posit a non-fýsic "moral order" without evidense; naturalist versions commit the is-ouht confusion (descriptive fýsic facts can't license normative claims).
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I think the environment matters in an instrumental way to sentient beings, but beyond that I’m entirely unmoved by appeals that attempt to give the “environment” or “nature” an inherent moral value separate from the conscious things within it
dabchick 🌱@dab_chick
I don’t care about the “environment”
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@upliftvegans Where's yer sentience line? Insects feel pain (QMUL, 2022); plants show stress responses (jasmonate signaling). Kindness across species requires arithmètic.
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@upliftvegans False: no human society in the archaeological record was vegan. Even hunter-gatherers ate meat. Modern veganism dates to 1944, Donald Watson, Vegan Society UK. Jains (the closest ancient analog) consume dairy, so aren't vegan.
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never, not once before I was vegan 💚 was I ever anti-vegan…
never argued with vegans, as soon as I learnt the truth, i became vegan
anti-vegans have to be some level of fucked up idiots
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@tofuafficionado @sweeet_tii Eggs at $0.025/g protein, tinned sardines, and ground beef all match yer dry beans on cost per gram bioavailabil protein. The "STILL cheaper" claim is onely maybe true in urban supplement-stockd markets with healthy users.
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@tofuafficionado @sweeet_tii "STILL cheaper" depends on the diet and market. Adding B12, D3 (in winter), K2, EPA/DHA algae oil, iron bisglycinate, and zinc supplements adds $20–50/month. Plant protein at 0.5 average DIAAS requires 1.5–2x the gross intake to match animal protein's bioavailability.
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rice and beans are food for the elite apparently
jessi 💋🪩@harrysdigicam
love billie but vegans like her should be more concerned with ensuring that everyone has access to sustainable & affordable food instead of judging like this you're a millionaire criticizing people for what they eat when there's so many barriers that are in place for some people to switch to plant based diets
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@aronndanniel @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado the displaced wildlife of yer cleared crop fields, the fish killd in yer downstream dead zones. Selective sentience isn't ethics but vibes. Cite a comparison study or cope harder yerself.
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@aronndanniel @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado Eating is a trofic relation, not violence; predators do this universally without "sadism." You don't see the insects killd by yer monoculture (QMUL, 2022 confirms insect pain), the soil fauna kemicly destroyd by yer fertilizer runoff,
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@tofuafficionado See Bali & Naik (2023) for the catalog.
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@tofuafficionado pre-formed taurine, creatine, and K2 menaquinone all need animal sources; retinol from beta-carotene has hihly variabil conversion. Industrial cyanocobalamin from Pseudomonas fermentation is itself industrial; yer "skip the middleman" actually adds one.
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@beeaannZzZ @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado "More protein, calories" requires bioavailable accounting which yer recipe loses. The "elitist" admission is the most honest line in the post.
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@beeaannZzZ @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado 6400 cal ÷ 20 = 320 cal/serving = 3 days of food for one adult. 520g plant protein x 0.5 average DIAAS ≈ 260g effective protein, the same as 1 kg beef. You also skippd the ghee and cream so yer dish lacks fat-soluble A, D, E, K2.
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@ram6y @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, British Dietetic Association, and Vegan Society itself recommend planning and supervision.
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@ram6y @sweeet_tii @tofuafficionado "Vegans" (fake) need help to avoid B12 deficiansy (irreversibil nerve damage), iron deficiansy anæmia, ω-3 insufficiansy, zinc deficiansy, low-DIAAS protein wasting, and the other documented vegan shortfalls (Bali & Naik, 2023).
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