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I genuinely want to know what was going through Cucurella mind there. 10 out of 10 times, any defender would’ve gone to defend a possible shot there

@leolindoski @Covenantismm How about Fofana, what has he done or won to earn that much?

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No real Chelsea fan would want Enzo to leave the club. As long as salary goes, I believe he should be earning the same or something close to what James is currently earning. He deserves that and he's our vice-captain

🚨 Bayern’s Uli Hoeness: “Kane is one of the best transfers we ever made and he’s staying”. “Barcelona have no money anyway”, told @DasErste.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa Name your criterion and be complete about it, don't cut it... include all that should be...you want to include knockouts, include the days of Sporting even if he has none then...

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa All time stats, Ronaldo trumps on knockout goals. Unfortunately, that's not the only criterion for clutch play. And this is while having the advantage of over 150 matches more on Messi.

Back in 2024, Al Nassr played against Inter Miami. Ronaldo was injured. Messi was on the bench. Al Nassr were winning 5-0 Inter Miami brought Messi in to come and equalize and balance the game. Fiamm Al Nassr added one more 😂 Let’s never forget this match 😂

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa You want to bring out stats, do it completely.... Ronaldo has played in 5 teams, you have to do all for them and we'll see if Messi trumps

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Knockout Goals in Euros vs Copa America Ronaldo: 6 Messi: 6 Knockout Goals in the Al Nassr vs Miami era Ronaldo: 9 Messi: 15 This is just one subset. I can go on and on. I posit again that Ronaldo's clutch abilities are largely limited to the UCL.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa Daft? I really can't be the one you're referring to as daft... thanks that was the only one that increased the margin, let me guess why you added it...it gave more to Messi lol

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Please don't be daft. The 75' inclusion was just one category. Did you not see knockout Goals on all of them? This is just Goals. I didn't bother entering into other aspects of clutch play because it'll be super embarrassing.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa pure stats but only using la liga, use all time yeah and get back to me... I'm waiting.... Goals after 75 mins is clutch now? What if the team is losing 3 nil and you score one or two....still clutch? Use your definition properly and create a proper stat

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Let's now do pure stats: UCL Knockout Goals (all-time) Ronaldo: 67 Messi: 49 World Cup Knockout Goals (all-time) Ronaldo: 0 Messi: 5 Copa Del Rey Knockout Goals (2010-2018) Ronaldo: 18 Messi: 23 La Liga 2010–2018: Goals after 75th minute Ronaldo: 72 Messi: 117

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa Your more accurate yardstick with which proof to show it's Messi. There's no definition of clutch you'd bring up that will make Messi a better Clutch player.

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa I remember telling you that Ronaldo's clutch moments are captured largely in the UCL...nowhere else. I also said Messi is the best clutch player overall. Considering my more accurate yardstick, what's there to argue again?

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa Nonsense? It's nonsense because it doesn't favour Messi...the same nonsense was what you added as an example of clutch..Where's any proof that Messi is ahead of CR7 in any of these things you put up? Argue with facts and stop bickering around.

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Clutch is a summation of: Late goals (especially equalisers/winners); Big-game performances; Penalties under pressure; Knockout-stage contributions; and Consistency in decisive moments. Not that nonsense you've been putting up. 1.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa Do you even read or you just want to argue? Match winning goals when drawing.... next, question the credibility of the picture or anything aside bringing your evidence. If you don't have any reasonable arguments to make, I suggest you take a nap.

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa You're still off. If my team is leading, say 3–1 by halftime and I scored the second goal that technically became the match winner, does that automatically make it clutch, if the scoreline stays the same till the end?

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa What's next? Match winners are clutch or you'd deny that too?

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Your definition of ‘clutch’ is goals that put the team ahead? So if Ronaldo equalises a one-goal deficit but the team still goes on to lose 4–1, that counts? These are the issues. Please for this session to continue, accurately define clutch. Let's no waste each other's time.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa An example of clutch...

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa And you said Messi is? where's your proof? I've watched both as the greatest players ever and admits that Messi is greater, just not in clutch moments. Hate and emotions blind you. I don't know why I keep arguing with you when emotions overrun you.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa This is hatred.... nothing like facts... People like you(if you weren't a Messi fan) would pick João Felix over Messi if he was Argentine and call it facts.

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Ronaldo's currently terrible at all of them. He wouldn't get anywhere near the PSG matchday squads. Ramos right now is a better option. It's not hatred. It's facts. 2.

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa There's nothing you said here that's right beside me and you debating on X while the manager is up there. Messi is not a better clutch player than Ronaldo. Ramos is terrible as a player, he doesn't fit any system, you think if he's good he wouldn't push for a move to get minutes?

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Best clutch player in the CL. Overall best is Messi. Feel free to debunk. There's a reason Martinez is on the bench and you're here debating on X. Also, Ramos doesn't exactly fit Enrique's style which is a mobile front line with intense pressing and fluid movement. 1.

@OfBantu @leecfc10 How much is Fofana being paid to pay 10 to 15 matches per season? One of your most available and important players asked for a raise, but because it's Enzo, crazy fans have mad ideas now.

@OfBantu @leecfc10 you can't ask for an increase after one or two years, the only reason Palmer isn't in talks to increase his pay is because he barely played matches this season. He is not the reason we ended in 9th or so, he is the reason we didn't end lower, imagine if he never rebelled.

🚨 Obi Mikel on Enzo Fernandez to Man City and Real Madrid rumours: " Personally I feel Chelsea have themselves to blame for all this, this wage structure limit is useless if u wants to buy top players they don't come cheap, u have to pay big for them including wages." "Enzo Fernandez deserves a pay rise to be honest and this whole Chelsea wage structure thing will not help players Enzo or new top signings to be committed." " If Chelsea wants experience they need to pay for them and selling Enzo would be a BIG MISTAKE."

@Elchokhmah @Nsukka_okpa grief?? lol.. their coach is bang average, doesn't even get his midfield right.. Imagine benching CR7 for G. Ramos that PSG replaced with wingers on the 9 because of how terrible he is. Keep speaking out of hatred, I don't have anything to say to you. Best clutch player, facts!!

@Okwukz @Nsukka_okpa Slow down and maybe redirect your grievances towards his coach. I wasn't the one benching him. If he was a better 9, wouldn't he start games? Facts are stubborn o. When they needed a clutch moment against Morocco, what happened?

@OfBantu @leecfc10 He doesn't want to leave, he wants a pay increase after dropping a good back to back season performance...if you were him, you'd demand the same.. For Chelsea to sign world class players and retain them you have to be willing to increase their pay

@leecfc10 If Enzo wants to leave, I believe they should sell him but only for a world record fee and to Madrid not City. Enzo is good but not a generational talent, good scouts will find a cheaper, better replacement. With Alonso, I think they'll be able to find a replacement

@LyndaJohnblack @AAjebowale @catchin_Ws @Bis_ade_ It's even still better than paying an agent fee of 500k...those agents are actually heartless

@AAjebowale @catchin_Ws @Okwukz @Bis_ade_ Use 15k inspect 1 house. 150k for 10 houses. Think am well o

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