“There is, of course, no notion of original guilt in Orthodoxy.”
- Saint Seraphim Rose
Orthodox Dogmatic Theology, Protopresbyter Michael Pomazansky, 1st edition, p. 165, footnote
Yikes. A prominent priest going on a show named after an infamous pornography series is maybe not the most prudent decision.
Not a good look, for Father Josiah or Orthodoxy.
Yo @RuslanKD this is your guy??? Pick him up and bring him back to whatever mental health rehab facility you found him at 😂😂😂
I don’t want to hear another word out of your guys’ hypocritical mouths ever again about @JayDyer and the “OrThObRo PrObLeM”
Watching the stream with @JPuncut, @Acts17David, & @truthcartel816, and of course the EO guy is making the typical "the saints are alive in heaven" strawman. 🤦♀️
When protestants respond to praying to the saints with, "saints cannot hear you in heaven, they are dead," this is not a denial of them being alive in Christ in heaven. We ALL recognize that Christians are alive in heaven.
I'll say it again: Protestants do not deny that we are alive in the afterlife.
So, to respond to this rebuttal with "bUt GoD iS tHe GoD oF tHe LiViNg, NoT tHe DeAd" is a dishonest framing of the argument. It is a complete strawman. No one is arguing against this.
When we say, "they are dead," we simply are speaking of their status here on earth. They are dead and gone from this earth, which is something that we all understand. Which is why Francis is no longer the pope, or why we have funerals for loved ones, or why we cry when someone dies. Death is real for christians and non-christians alike.
We ALL understand the concept of death and understand that even Christians die from this earth. So please, PLEASE, stop making this strawman argument when defending the intercession of the saints. PLEASE engage with our actual positions and stop pretending that we deny eternal life in heaven.
@X__Zachary@hneros13818@nicholasofronto I haven’t heard that, this has been my pfp for 2+ years. It very well may be true but I have interacted with clergy frequently and haven’t received that guidance from them. If a Priest gives me instruction I will listen!
@hneros13818@nicholasofronto It risks scandalizing those looking into the Church. Anti-EO apologists are already using this situation to convince people to stop inquiring. It harms the men and women involved in this situation and furthers the tension between EO men and women. To flip this, who is benefiting?
@rickondatoilet@hneros13818@nicholasofronto Certainly no one is free of scandal or sin. Historically the Church has faced struggle and scandal, we see this in Acts with contention of how to receive Gentiles and with false prophets and teachers, like Bar-Jesus.
@hneros13818@OrthodoxGabriel@nicholasofronto future inquirers, the Orthodox Church is the least scandalous and yet there’s pockets of gossip girls bringing up an embarrassing ONLINE exchange between two contrite hearts.
@Plrbrprty8888 I don’t think JP is inherently a bad person but something is controlling his tongue so he has an instant response to anything that is said. I hope he can see the Truth!
@thatonemaia@Robin_k94 One of my good friends was an Orthodox Christian and attended the party. He was embarrassed by somethings which happened and said he needed a friend to go with him to Church. He seemed very distressed and I never minded helping a friend.
@hneros13818@nicholasofronto Are you not concerned how this needlessly harms others including those not involved with this whole situation?
It’s better to be smart than “right”!