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@Jayroper9Jamie @ExposingMessi It’s the top 5

@ExposingMessi Convinently cut it off at 15 🤣🤣 Messi best campaign is 14 in the champions league

Most goals in a single World Cup campaign: 1- Fontaine (13) 2- Kocsis (11) 3- Gerd Müller (10) 4- Mbappe (10) 5- Ademir (9) Most goals in a single Champions league campaign: 1- Ronaldo (17) 2- Ronaldo (16) 3- Ronaldo (15) 4- Benzema (15) 5- Lewandowski (15) Nope, no Messi. ❌️

@The_Designnn @TouchmineX I guess Brazil’s in Europe now

Imagine needing to cherry-pick six countries from another continent just to attack the player with the most complete trophy cabinet in football history. 😭 Messi’s job was to dominate South America. Ronaldo’s job was to dominate Europe. One completed football. The other is still chasing comparisons.

🚨📊 𝗗𝗜𝗗 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗞𝗡𝗢𝗪: Lionel Messi still has 0 goals against Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, England, and Portugal in competitive matches.

@Neymar1F37717 I found an interesting connection between Michael Jackson Diogo jota 2030 wc and Ronaldo

Jorge jesus also known as "JJ" JJ=104 World cup=104

@Oiza1507 @Bigdunss express.co.uk/sport/football… Here’s the source

@Bigdunss Mk una try they bring real evidence nahh

Food is ready!!!😂😂😂

@ProsperChinons6 @Bigdunss express.co.uk/sport/football… Link to the authentic quote from 2009

@Bigdunss 9 out 10 Ronaldo fans post is lies and delusions

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii Playing deeper is not equal to carrying the ball from deeper, ronaldo carries the ball in higher threat areas but he plays just as deep as Messi

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii But this directly contradicts your claim that Messi doesn’t play deeper than Ronaldo, if Messi has significantly more progressive ball carries but Ronaldo has more in the final third then doesn’t that mean Messi is carrying the ball from much deeper?

there is genuinely HUGE difference between these two and we all know this

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii Yeah that’s a fair point from your side but I will try and see if there’s any other decent source

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii If you have no other, we can only work with what we have.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii Yes one minute I’m having my friend send it he has the heat map pictures he’s sent to me before just waiting on his response

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Ah wait oo You’re saying Messi doesn’t play significantly deeper than Ronaldo?😂 Please drop the heatmap

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii I mean in his own half not box, sorry

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Messi isn’t really effective in his own box, he’s not tall enough to clear balls or crosses, his entire game play allows the team to play around in inefficiency in this context.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii I need to see a source for these stats. I don’t think this is accurate because Messi attempts so many more dribbles than Ronaldo it doesn’t make sense for him to have only 600 more failed dribbles

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii He doesn’t lose the ball twice as much nau😂 Messi has ~3000 failed dribbles, Ronaldo ~2400 And the 0.18 SCA is actually significant. Percentages can be deceiving till you calculate the actual numbers.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii It’s just each source’s definition for a take on, there’s no objective way to prove or disprove a subjective definition of a take on. Which is why it is difficult to disprove opta’s stats

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Opta is the standard for data collection, you’d have to provide a very good counter source to beat the stats gotten from opta

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii This is jsut disagreeing with your point that Messi plays significantly deeper than Ronaldo. But yes I will provide heat maps in a bit

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Let’s see the heat map please and elaborate on this cus I don’t understand what the end product of this information is

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii I talked down on it from my own viewing of the games, I need to learn the stats for it so I can support my argument. I agree with you on that being my mistake, I shouldn’t speak on things I can’t back.

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii If you didn’t know about it, you shouldn’t have talked down on it like you did.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii Ronaldo does more ball carries relative to his total ball carries in the final third a lot more than Messi, that too in the flank and you are much more marked on the flank by both a player and the limited space of the touchline

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii I can’t find a source for this claim but any search you do rn will show you Messi gets more tackles overall and even per 90.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii Yeah, but here the drop in efficiency is too significant. He loses the ball twice as much just to generates 0.18 more SCA a game from dribbles. And on top of that, because his usage rate is so absurdly high, I don’t think he is as effective as cr7

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii As volume increases, efficiency reduces but he covers up for that with total output, I already mentioned and showed this earlier.

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii I just disagree with the definition of a take on by opta, I saw this one analysis which showed just how many of Messi’s ball carries are diagonal carries which aren’t explicitly take ons but the dispossesions from those aren’t accounted

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii So you’re saying Messi’s dispossessions during take ons aren’t fully accounted for?

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii I’m saying the places where they do progressions the heatmaps are around the same distance from the halfway line this isn’t what I’m talking about

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Ball progression for Messi and Ronaldo?? You dey try rage bait me?

@Laur3nt_6 @shubomiiiii To be honest I don’t know Messi’s defensive stats at all so I will need to read up and comment on it but from all the games I’ve watched Messi most of the time after losing the ball will not recover on defense and very rarely is in his own box.

@PO766259093 @shubomiiiii Complete disregard for defensive recoveries? Lmao. I get your point for possession lost and xTA but to try and play down on Messi’s defensive contributions is funny.

@KennyGKMC @LfcNuel “Shows the only poll he’s ever won on this app” I was addressing that portion of your statement by showing another poll.

@PO766259093 @LfcNuel Congrats you managed to find one with even less votes😭😭😭👍👍

All Messi fans do is lie 😂😂

@ama_fcb @StevenG27767951 No theyre not you’re just lying

@StevenG27767951 The first two clips are literally him flopping.

what a player ffs. every touch perfection, godly pnp and phenomenal goal threat. clowns in the chat calling this a fail comp have 0 bk.