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Raising awareness on the Palestinian Kurds, bringing closer Palestinians and Kurds, RT=/= endorsement

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Palestinian Kurds@PalestinianKurd·
We're back
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I have no time to argue with someone who argues against primary sources with orientalist late unpopular views last time I'm arguing not ready to listen to anything else
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion

@PalestinianKurd I have nothing against you brother. Just don't agree with your narrative. Btw Bilal ibn Rabah was considered by academics to be paternally an Arab.

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Unlike you I have not claimed non Kurdish land as Kurdish. Amazigh have created many dynasties after Islam in north africa and north africa remained mostly amazigh in identity until much later. In anyways I have no business with racist people like yourself
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kedar🏴☝🏻 🇵🇸🇩🇿@arabian79394

@PalestinianKurd I have, i even know my tribe Also North Africa is Arab now it became Arab when we conquered it and moved in it Also do not try to steal Palestine and make it Kurdistan like your people always does when they go to Arab countries for some reasons

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I'm done with this guy, I respectfully replied to him and his trolls and misinfo with clear evidence but he refuses it and resorts to insults. Compares Islam which preferred Salman the Persian and Bilal al Habashi RA over non muslim arabs to an ideology that worships a race
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@HisanDaStallion Nice cope the word used is “gohar” and it is said that the jawhar is Arab but not the lineage in the very screenshot you provide don’t have time for ahistorical trolls like you
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion·
Wahsudan is described as Arab through his father’s side. Abu Nasr Mamlan ll, since he became Kurdified, is described as Ajam, but his father or mother is not specified. For Wahsudan, it says his nasab is Ajam from MOM side. In the Persian language and poem, nasab means ancestry and can be used broadly, even for maternal origin, but it is not explicitly specified in the poem for Abu Nasr Mamlan ll. In Wahsudan’s case, it is clarified in the poem. Two Ayyubid leaders denied being Kurds. The Bahdinan elite Kurds are originally Abbasid. Just take the L. Arabs reached from al-Andalus to Southeast Asia and established many states. Your history is irrelevant. The core of the Abbasid Revolution was Khurasanian Arabs, and this is an established academic position. Salam alaikum
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liar this is the same propaganda used against Kurds by people who never use a primary source and instead think Muslims that speak Arabic can only be Arab like yourself the revolutionary armies are mostly native khurasani like Al jahiz and Muhammad bin hasan al Shaybani said
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TORUK MAKTO@TORUKMAKTO_1

The Abbasid Caliphate was not created by Abu Muslim and neither is the ethnic origin of Abu Muslim known, his father could be Arab and his mother either a Turkish or Persian slave academia.edu/111052198/The_… European historians like you have constantly tried making the Abbasid revolution look like some Indo European revolution which is simply not true The entire Abbasid Army was made of Arabs, there was not a single Iranian or Ajam in the early Abbasid army

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@HisanDaStallion @grok Here it clearly states hasab is Arab but nasab is ajam for mamlan and by default nasab is through the father even in the one your posting it doesn’t say Arab nasab through the father and like its said the only way a nasab goes is through the father not the mother
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion·
@PalestinianKurd @grok Bro are you blind in the section of Wahsudan he says Nasab even for Mom side. He didnt say father for Abu Nasr Mamlan you guys are coping 😂😂😂😂 here he says NASAB MOM.
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Baathist brilliance is “debunking” primary sources with AI generated answers
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@HisanDaStallion @grok Hahaha why does this bring up nasab from the ajam and hasab from the Arabs then again contradictory claims from you clearly showing his nasab is ajam
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion·
@PalestinianKurd @grok No in the Persian Qasida and Persian language they mention lineage *nasab* for both sides read Wahsudan poem you're coping so hard. He never said Abu Nasr Mamlan his dads nasab is Ajam Look at it here for Wahsudan he clearly says his father nasab is Arab SEETHE
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@HisanDaStallion @grok Lineage is through the father not the mother and anyone can translate that poem directly and know it’s ajam you’ve been refuted terribly and resort to using non native orientalists to push your contradictory agenda
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion·
Cope that’s about Abu Nasr Mamlan ll And it doesn’t say father is Ajam it says lineage but not which side Then in Poem of his father Wahsudsn he says Nasab from the father This is also academically established You are just clutching at straws Arabs exceed you Jurds in massive history so you guys salty about it
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@kurrekurda You can convert at the hands of an Arab and be associated with his tribe but you don’t become Arab because of that
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I didn’t want to originally reply to this but since this guy is trying to fool people most people on the list that he gave are non Arab mawali who got affiliated with their converter’s tribe nevertheless mawali aren’t Arabs and the Abbasid revolution almost destroyed that system
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GUDEA@MaxedOutArab

The Persian roots of Muslim scholars is one of the most exaggerated myths that got popularised. Most of the claimed scholars came from Arab tribes who RESIDED in Khorassan and hence took the names of the cities they lived in. The Persianification of Islamic history was detected and debunked by Allama Dr. Naji Ma'ruf. In his book “The Arabness of Scholars Attributed to Non-Arab Lands,” the scholar Dr. Naji Ma‘ruf set out to challenge a widely repeated narrative about Islamic intellectual history. He originally planned the work as a ten-volume project, but passed away after completing only three volumes. In this work, he responds to the Shu‘ubiyya, currents that sought to diminish the role of Arabs, and directly refutes the famous claim of Ibn Khaldun that “most bearers of knowledge in Islam were non-Arabs, except for a rare few.” Ma‘ruf argues the opposite: that the majority of scholars were in fact Arabs or of Arab origin, even if they were associated with regions like Persia, Khurasan, or Central Asia. He criticizes later figures such as Haji Khalifa, who transmitted this claim in Kashf al-Zunun and expanded upon it without proper attribution, as well as modern writers like Jurji Zaydan, Ahmad, Philip Hitti, and other orientalists who repeated the same idea without relying on statistical analysis or examining the actual genealogical origins of scholars. According to Ma‘ruf, many scholars labeled as “non-Arab” were only identified by their place of residence, while in reality they traced back to Arab tribes. His work is an attempt to correct what he sees as a long-standing misunderstanding by highlighting the Arab roots of many figures traditionally attributed to non-Arab lands. Here is a completion of the Arab scholars attributed to Persia as shown in the 1st Volume of the book:

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@HisanDaStallion @grok The same western academia that falsely alters the work you provided with lines of a poem that state the rawadid royals in Azerbaijan were non Arab?
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@PalestinianKurd @grok Brother you are clutching at straws you claim Ayyubid with Western Academic view Yet Western Academics reached new view that the core of Abassid revolution was Arab and rightfully so and you’re seething and crying
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@PalestinianKurd @grok can you explain to this ignorant individual that The core of the Abbasid revolution were Khorasanian Arabs
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Hisān@HisanDaStallion·
@PalestinianKurd He didn’t lie, the core of the Abbasid revolution were Khorasanian Arabs and this is a academic established fact the Persian propaganda has been debunked
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This Baathist is really lying and denying something the Ayyubids’ original writer and deputy vizier Imad al Din Al Isfahani literally mentioned when said “our Kurdish princess” or abul feda the last Ayyubid prince calling his own ancestors Kurds
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GUDEA@MaxedOutArab

@ciyalewend What is this disgusting historical revisionism? Salah Al-Din never claimed to be Kurdish, does not have one text or a letter written in Kurdish. His army constituted of Arabs and he represented them. Stop making up history and claim things you do not own. Sick people.

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Eid Mubarak to all those celebrating
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Zarbian@ZarbianHerki·
Interestingly, Sykes (1908) states that the tribe in Tur Abidin was said to have been Sorani-speaking. I wonder whether there is a distant connection with the Sūrčī tribe. Add to this Ibn Hajar's mention of a Kurdish tribe called "Surīj" in relation to a scholar from Nusaybin.
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@HisanDaStallion @PalestinianKurd Ayyubids acknowledged that they were Kurds, severql times. Where is your source, let's see the line from the original ode/poem. Not some text you've made yourself.
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