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Nesta ౨ৎ@nestapendragon·14h

@PandaBaris @nothing87777 I get your point! A singleton lightning bolt with no other support or synergy like prowess, I'm not sure that would even be good in most 60 card decks either?

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Nesta ౨ৎ@nestapendragon·1d

There's more commander players than ever. And more cards are being made and sold than ever! But you can't compete at "real" magic every week at your local store. It looks like that's dead and gone. Maybe that's what veterans see? And I feel they are right.

MTGオワコンオワコン言ってる古参プレイヤーと FFくらいから歴代売上トップクラス更新し続けてるウィザーズのよくわからん対比関係がずっとみてて面白い #MTG

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Baris@PandaBaris·14h

@nestapendragon @nothing87777 Yes this a do-nothing "synergy" piece that I referenced. In burn you don't need to spend 4 mana for a card that doesn't do anything by itself. Needing this on board for the archetype to be comparible shows the difference in the game play experience.

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Nesta ౨ৎ@nestapendragon·14h

@PandaBaris @nothing87777 Lightning bolt can matter

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Baris@PandaBaris·14h

@disrupthehuman I know "themes and such" is getting dunked on rn, but as an author One really understands the themes of his works in a way that few authors are rn. From the first page till the end, One is locked in on exploring the pursuit of power vs emotional growth and maturity

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Tumisha(🤡)'s Stud Sheriff Boiwife 🫡🤠@disrupthehuman·19h

the "loneliness of the strongest" theme is just not really an interesting one. the reason why it works in mob isn't just because one can actually write compelling characters, it's because mob treats the desire for and indulgence in power as emotionally stunting.

santi@cadejos_

is it a safe space to say that shortly after jjk died i watched the entirety of mob psycho and amongst my conclusions was the fact that gege kinda phoned it in with that "loneliness of the strongest" theme

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Baris@PandaBaris·14h

@nothing87777 @nestapendragon Even outside of archetypes being discouraged, some are just distinctly different. If I'm playing burn, I want lightning bolt to matter without needing to have several do-nothing "synergy" pieces on board. The experiences for these archetypes are very different

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nothing87777@nothing87777·15h

@nestapendragon @PandaBaris No, kitchen tabel and commander are completely different. Commander has been homogenized into a completely different culture where whole archtypes and mechanics are forbidden.

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Baris@PandaBaris·23h

@tyabann_da I dont think extension is the right word. It is a different format of casual magic. Kitchen table magic is dead because it is assumed that all 1v1 formats are for tryhards only. People will willingly play 2 person commander over trying some form of very casual 1v1 constructed

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tyabann 🍁@tyabann_da·1d

the thing is that Commander is actually just an extension of kitchen table multiplayer which was ALWAYS more widely played than competitive tournament magic

Nesta ౨ৎ@nestapendragon

There's more commander players than ever. And more cards are being made and sold than ever! But you can't compete at "real" magic every week at your local store. It looks like that's dead and gone. Maybe that's what veterans see? And I feel they are right.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent I guess that's all you have right? When you have no ability to refute the pretty coherent claim that cooking benefits from economies of scale you resort to childish name calling. You go you Yank!

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·1d

@PandaBaris I'm a Yankee. I don't do passive-aggressive condescension, but I will not hesitate to return it with well-deserved spite. If you don't like being called a bitch, don't be a condescending bitch, especially when you're talking out of your ass.

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·1d

I live with my zoomer sons. We shop together but usually cook separately. We spend less than $200/month per person for groceries, and we eat very well. You're just incompetent.

Baris@PandaBaris

@Recursion_Agent Readymade meals employ the same means of scale as a restaurant... Conceptually what is the difference between a ready made meal, and one from the restaurant compared to a dish you cook at home. Almost all of the labor is outsourced to make food in great batches.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent That's not my argument nor did I ever say I am struggling financially? It is ridiculous to suggest that food cooked on scale is cheaper? That produce bought in bulk is cheaper? I'm not quite sure what you find to be ridiculous here.

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·1d

@PandaBaris Ridiculous argument. We're a household of three, we eat out maybe once a month. Our grocery bill is less than $600/month. We all make our own meals unless someone cooks for everyone. You don't need any kind of scale to eat cheaply, you're just incompetent.

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·2d

This is ahistorical nonsense. In the 1950s, the vast majority of meals were cooked and eaten at home. (75% to 40% today) Food out was a rare treat, and options were much less expensive and expectations much lower.

People don't realize this but "cook your own food at home, it's cheaper" is a very modern phenomenon. It was significantly more cost efficient to have one restaurant bulk buy ingredients and cooking supplies instead of making each person do so individually.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent Your averages are for both populations and I'm sure on the citation for that it will say that it is skewed upwards by rural multi-generational homes which could be up to 6-10 in a home and had different ways of communally sharing food

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·1d

@PandaBaris Bitch I know how averages work, which is why I'm posting real numbers and you're off in the weeds over gardening after being called out for literally making shit up.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent And ready-made meals are an exceptionally modern invention.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent Readymade meals employ the same means of scale as a restaurant... Conceptually what is the difference between a ready made meal, and one from the restaurant compared to a dish you cook at home. Almost all of the labor is outsourced to make food in great batches.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent We're getting to understand how averages work. In more rural communities the household needed to accommodate multiple generations but that wasn't as true in urban households. These two populace have different needs But in both cases: cookstoves.net/articles/foodw…

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A Strange Loop 🧭✴️@Recursion_Agent·1d

@PandaBaris That's...not true. 87% of households were married couples with or without children. 55% of homes were owner-occupied. A further 9% were singles living alone. Many households had grandparents as well, but multifamily dwellings were not common- average househld size was 4.5

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent A 1-5 person household just does not benefit from the same logistics of scale. And these small households were only popularized post WWII

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@Recursion_Agent The 1950s is still modern, or rather contemporary, from a historical view. The single family home is a very "modern" trend. Pre WWII even if families were eating at home, it was on a much larger scale as the home was made up of multiple "families"

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@nestapendragon Because the thought of playing a 1v1 tcg in a casual way is an impossible thought to many EDH players In the same way that 5e players would rather hack and homebrew the system to support a sci-fi story instead of exploring a different system

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@nestapendragon To me, EDH and DnD 5e are in a similar spot as they have such a monopoly on the casual market and players of these games are just unwilling to try other options unless they conform to their ideals. Like players who have never touched the game saying pokemon tcg needs a 4p format

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@NAllison89 That's not what they're saying. They even explicitly called out that it isn't about cooking. They are responding to a post that claims the way to have $1 sandwiches is to, en bulk, bake your own bread to have egg sandwiches They are not saying home cooking is not delicious

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NAlison@NAllison89·1d

Home cooked meals are delicious. They are not poverty meals, this is ridiculous.

it's not about bread or baking bread or cooking it's this weird idea that you should scrimp and eat poverty meals constantly healthy food is far more expensive too! the average grocery bill myself and my mom got is 150 higher than it was like 5 years ago!

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@mtntallpaul Because you're living in the modern era? The key phrase there is "modern phenomenon" which is describing the time period you have lived your whole life in.

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Paul Yeager 🇺🇸🇮🇱@mtntallpaul·2d

So why did most of us eat most of our meals at home? This is pure folderol.

People don't realize this but "cook your own food at home, it's cheaper" is a very modern phenomenon. It was significantly more cost efficient to have one restaurant bulk buy ingredients and cooking supplies instead of making each person do so individually.

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Baris@PandaBaris·1d

@burnedinseattle Conversely, you are using your experience of growing up in small town Washington as a generalization. For you it was a rare treat but does that apply to everyone who did not live in small town Washington?

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