Logic
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Taiwan is already independent. There’s no need for recognition. No amount of whining from China will change that.
Taiwan is politically, diplomatically, economically and militarily independent. China exercises no authority and no governance over Taiwan.
That’s independence.
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Trump on Taiwan: “The Chinese just don’t want to see this place — we’ll call it a place, because nobody knows how to define it — but they don’t want to see it go independent. I’d like to see everybody making chips in Taiwan come over to us in America. I’m not looking to have somebody go independent. And, you know, are we supposed to travel 9,500 miles to fight a war? I’m not looking for that. When you look at the odds, China is a very, very powerful and big country. That’s a very small island. Think of it; it’s 59 miles away. We’re 9,500 miles away. That’s a little bit of a difficult problem. If you look at the history, Taiwan was developed because we had presidents that didn’t know what the hell they were doing. They stole our chip industry” 🇺🇸🇨🇳🇹🇼
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@blastmeme02 @Patricia21st @visegrad24 Do you really think the US should put the lives of millions of Americans in danger because of some tiny Island?
China can become the biggest buyer of US goods, top investor and top trading partner. Can Taiwan do that for the US? No!
Any smart person will make a logical choice.
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@Patricia21st @visegrad24 Bowing to China... Sure but goes against everything he has done and said.
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Trump on Taiwan:
“The Chinese just don’t want to see this place — we’ll call it a place, because nobody knows how to define it — but they don’t want to see it go independent.
I’d like to see everybody making chips in Taiwan come over to us in America.
I’m not looking to have somebody go independent. And, you know, are we supposed to travel 9,500 miles to fight a war? I’m not looking for that.
When you look at the odds, China is a very, very powerful and big country. That’s a very small island.
Think of it; it’s 59 miles away. We’re 9,500 miles away. That’s a little bit of a difficult problem.
If you look at the history, Taiwan was developed because we had presidents that didn’t know what the hell they were doing. They stole our chip industry”
🇺🇸🇨🇳🇹🇼
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@blastmeme02 @visegrad24 Taiwan is just not worth it for the US. The US stands to gain a lot by siding with China, stand to lose a lot by fighting China.
x.com/i/status/20557…
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@visegrad24 Calling Taiwan a place definitely undermines US And Taiwan relations. Trump is massacring US relations with every country each day.
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@EumanSavage @visegrad24 Faggot pussy tiny Chinese dick sucksd
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@EumanSavage @visegrad24 Give Australia to China.
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul Is this a joke or what? The UK literally arrests people for their speech online more than any country while you accuse China of doing the same, yet you call it "Apple and Oranges comparison" upon learning that a country you choose to call "democratic" does it? 🤣
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@PerpetualLogic @McFaul Apple and Orange comparison. Even non‑Western‑aligned tech‑based rankings put China near the bottom on internet freedom, while the UK sits in the middle. China’s model is systematically restrictive; the UK tightens speech rules but stays in a democratic, far‑more‑open camp.
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In case you forgot, Xi is a dictator.
Trump must engage Xi to advance US national interests.
But he does have to shower the Chairman of the Communist Party of China with compliments.
Xi only sees Trump's sycophantic praise as a sign of weakness.
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul The same situation in any advanced country. The same situation in London with the largest number of surveillance cameras per square meter.
All your arguments are easily counter-argued, which should show you that you don't have a strong argument to convince the world China is evil
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@PerpetualLogic @McFaul China runs one of the world’s most tightly controlled systems AI‑driven censorship systems, mass surveillance, and laws that punish dissent online and offline. Watchdogs score its freedom near 9/100 and describe authoritarian machine that edits and suppresses expression.
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul What is "truth" if they're not facts backed by concrete evidence? 🤷♂️
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@PerpetualLogic @McFaul You can ignore facts but that doesn't make them in true.
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@ADectis @henrysgao Trump admin disgracing themselves in front of the world.
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@Smiling_venom @HuaisiCen @TheInsiderPaper Yet their constitution says otherwise. They would need to change their constitution and declare Taiwan, "The Republic of Taiwan".
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@HuaisiCen @TheInsiderPaper It doesn’t need to. Taiwan claims it doesn’t need to “declare” anything because it’s already independent.
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JUST IN - Taiwan says it is an 'independent' nation, after Trump's warning
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul Last fact to prove to you how propagandized you have been because you know very little about China other than the talking points of your government:
China wouldn't be the most visited nation in Asia if China was the "evil dictatorship state you imagine comparable to North Korea"
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul You choose to call it exception. Knowledgeable people on how China operates day to day call it the reality over there. Your imagination about China doesn't match reality, and ordinary people who visit China will tell you.
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul Funfact: The UK jails more people for online speech than any country on earth. And remember the difference in population between the UK and China. katv.com/news/nation-wo…
Also, I doubt the scoring wasn't done by an unbias westerner. Validity is in question.
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@PerpetualLogic @McFaul Exception not the rule. China removed 1M+ social media posts in early 2025, jailed critics & rights defenders, and scores just 9/100 on internet freedom. The US? 73/100. Same planet, different worlds.
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@__Inty__ @WarMonitor3 China doesn't mind being called West Taiwan. They want territorial integrity, not names.
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Before leaving Taiwan the entire US delegation dumped every gift they have been given my Chinese officials in Beijing before getting on airforce one out of fears of spying.
Wow…
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@deloitteshen @McFaul Did independent foreign researchers go there to take data on people's opinions regarding their leaders without a gun pointing to their heads?
Only illogical people compare China to North Korea. People freely criticize government policies on Weibo everyday x.com/i/status/20552…
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul Yes. And you can have a negative view in China without consequences. Chinese people protested against the government's "Zero-Covid" policy and the Chinese government scrapped it. Logic would make you understand that you can never prevent freaking 1.4B people from criticizing.
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@PerpetualLogic @McFaul So North Korea is the best democracy on earth by your standards? LMAO
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul If a massive population doesn't approve of their government and its policies, there can never be peace and stability within that country.
The Chinese leadership's survival hinges on delivering on what the Chinese people want (growth and safety).
Last year Bessent pointed this out
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@DanielMByrnes @McFaul Yes. And you can have a negative view in China without consequences. Chinese people protested against the government's "Zero-Covid" policy and the Chinese government scrapped it.
Logic would make you understand that you can never prevent freaking 1.4B people from criticizing.
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Before boarding Air Force One to leave Beijing, the entire U.S. delegation dumped every item given to them by Chinese hosts — gifts, badges, pins, commemorative items — into a trash bin on site.
Nothing of Chinese origin got on the plane.
The delegation had already left personal devices at home and used clean burner phones throughout the trip.
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