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Watch the Reform UK's James Orr humiliate himself on #BBCQT
James Orr, "When the wind doesn't blow, you need gas to back it up and sometimes the wind doesn't blow"
Fiona Bruce asks how drilling helps us is oil and gas are traded on the international market
James Orr, "Prices are fixed internationally but a portion of them is connected to"
Caroline Lucas, "It really isn't. It's sold on international markets to the highest bidder"
James Orr, "That's not true.. Bills are higher because of unreliable renewables"
Caroline Lucas, "They are not unreliable. All we need are interconnectors so when its not windy in this country you import the wind power from somewhere else"
"I just despair at the kind of lies James, you are telling to people"
James Orr, "These are not lies"
Caroline Lucas, "They are"
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