Richard Drake
68 posts


@atrupar Watching this, I get the impression that the largest part of the American public is at least open to the idea that there was some sort of credible, though possibly inflated risk of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon in the next few years.
There wasn't; you have been lied to.
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BUTTIGIEG: The strait was open before they started this
KERNEN: They were close to having 11 nuclear weapons!
BUTTIGIEG: We had other ways of dealing with them
KERNEN: Like what? Obama's way?
BUTTIGIEG: That worked
KERNEN: That did not work!
BUTTIGIEG: Did they get a nuclear weapon under Obama?
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@greg_douthit @atrupar I bet you think that old white guy who shot a black teen for ringing the doorbell was just being prudent.
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@atrupar PETE BUTTPLUG, 911 OPERATOR:
Is the burglar actually in your house?
So hes just standing outside your window?
Yes, he tried to break in your front door, but he stopped, right?
Why are you calling 911 bc he's standing outside your bedroom window? ...he's not trying to break in
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No, the point isn’t to get a weapon until they have the military supremacy in place to keep it…
Instead they kept a stockpile of uranium for 11 missiles at a stage of enrichment allowing them to reach weapons grade 90% enrichment in under 2 weeks…
Salami tactics…
Do you go to war when they build stockpiles of thousands of ballistic missiles for attack and defence?
Do you go to war if they build an ICBM capable of carrying a nuclear warhead but have no weapons grade nuclear material?
What about if technology advances and the time to integrate weapons grade uranium into a ICBM warhead is reduced from say 2 months to a few weeks, do you go to war then?
So, they have ICBMs, they have a ballistic missile and drone production programme capable of producing hundreds of weapons a day, they have enough uranium for 11 nuclear missiles and can have the carts assembled in as little as over a month…
How the fuck did you let them get to that stage?
WHEN do you go to war? AFTER you’re destroyed?
Do you know how long it takes to get carrier groups there?
What an utter fool Pete is..
Read the IEAE reports from under Obama, you know, the ones doing the “inspections”..,there was a whole host of violations and NOTHING was done about it…..not least, the teams identified undeclared sites that they found uranium particles in…a CLEAR BREECH of the agreement…what did Obama do? That’s right SFA….
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@1Listen2Think @atrupar Like any of the other participants were in charge of the pentagon. To be fair to the secretary of state for War, he’s given himself other stuff to do.
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@atrupar Obama gave them money to develop nuclear and missiles. Smart ass!
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@DaleKirkendall @atrupar Sorry, could you post something that makes sense? If you’re not MAGA this is hard to understand.
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@nodie1982 @atrupar Except that whereas nobody claims Iranian nukes exist just yet, lot’s of people blame rising temperatures, melting glaciers, rising sea levels, worse storms etc on global warming because that’s a literal description of how the climate’s changed over the past few decades.
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@commonsenselive @atrupar No, he did what you said because he thought this sort of attack would make it worse in the long run. We’ll see, won’t we? Either way, nobody’s freed the Iranians. It’s not the sort of dictatorship where killing one (or a few) key man makes it collapse, plainly.
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@atrupar And the answer to Buttgiegs last retort is: No, like most, if not all previous Presidents, Obama paid dearly to delay the unavoidable beyond his presidency, hoping that someone will have the balls to finish the Mullahs….
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@SauronWasFramed @atrupar Build what? Missiles? Nuclear weapons? They already had the former and never had the latter. Iran gets money from selling oil. Still do, they didn’t close the straits to their friends. Did this accelerated their push or slow it down? You can argue it either way.
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@atrupar Obama gave them the money to build them petey boi
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@SJonNantucket @atrupar Didn’t they already have missiles? Do you mean they would be allowed to develop them further? How practical would it be to stop that by treaty? I guess there was START and all that but they already had the tech.
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@atrupar They had enough 60% enriched material for 11 bombs. Obama's deal also placed zero restrictions on ballistic missiles and gave them tons of cash. Total disaster of a deal.
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@gambare21 @atrupar Definitely. The question is whether you think this war makes it worse or better for the next president. Whatever your or my opinion, we can’t be sure for a few years. But I don’t think many minds will change in the meantime.
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@LarryOstarly @atrupar Maybe you can’t have a discussion with anybody if you just repeat Trump’s talking points, given that what he does and says changes so often, and so rarely for logical reasons.
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@atrupar You can't have a discussion with a Democrat. So, Trump was wrong 7 months ago. So, he pivoted and now Iran will never have a nuclear weapon and the regime is neutered. My grandkids will live in a better word.
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@SelRamirez1997 @jazziejaf @StephenKing Didn’t Sun Tsu say that it was better to achieve your objectives without fighting than to win repeatedly? Did he not envisage brave men carrying out daring, skilful raids when their leaders could identify no sensible objectives at all?
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@jazziejaf @StephenKing I am writing a comedy where the antagonist gets repeatedly thrown off a building. Guess what the character's name is?
It's probably too easy.
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@BBorimor @StephenKing Nice moto! Of course, Leonidas couldn’t start a war without consulting the rest of the government, the Spartans thought that was no way to run a country. And he died fighting for his country in his person, because he wouldn’t send someone else to fight a foreign war for him.
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@StephenKing Damn, I burned all your book that last time you said something this stupid!
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@ddranch44Badger @StephenKing MAGA in 1776? I thought the founding fathers were fighting against spending on the military and being governed by a man who inherited all his money and regularly lost touch with reality? And they invented the constitution to be followed, not ignored, right?
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@DiogoSchwein @StephenKing He’s not trying to persuade you. He’s just making fun of your guy. He seems to have given up on people who think that avoidable inflation, needless wars, or masked paramilitaries who kidnap children and shoot nurses on the street are signs of a well run country.
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@StephenKing You idiots still haven’t learned that crying about everything Trump says or does…doesn’t help you. It only makes us love him even more 😂
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