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Steve Fuller

@ProfSteveFuller

Prof of Sociology, @warwickuni. Founder of Social Epistemology and Author of Humanity 2.0 and Post Truth: Knowledge as a Power Game

University of Warwick Katılım Temmuz 2011
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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
My new book is 'Media and the Power of Knowledge'. It is partly based on lectures I've given over the last 15 years. It updates McLuhan for the age of @X: futurespodcast.net/events/media-p…
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Imagine a teacher who says a lot of provocative things, but whose concrete implications are unclear or ambiguous, which a student then successfully focuses in a quite specific way. This characterizes Aristotle's relationship to Plato.
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The Sociology of Knowledge wouldn't be needed if people didn't think that Slavoj Zizek and Judith Butler are important philosophers.
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@digitaldang Unfortunately, many people don't think like you, and so a sociology of knowledge is needed.
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@TonySiewert The problem is that many other people do believe it; hence, the need for a sociology of knowledge.
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@BillyRubin1974 I don't deny that Zizek and Butler are good at what they do. It's just that the appeal of what they do is easily explained.
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Billy Rubin
Billy Rubin@BillyRubin1974·
@ProfSteveFuller I saw Zizek with Yanis Varoufakis (& Julian Assange by video link), and I saw Judith Butler... all were excellent, I thought.
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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
If you've been striving to achieve a goal all your life, why do you stick around once it's happened. Who says experiencing achievement for a longer time makes you happier?
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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
This episode with @briankeating is one of his best:
Prof. Brian Keating@Briankeating

The Cognitive Scientist Who Says You Don't Exist | Joscha Bach (@Plinz) Timestamps: 00:00 You Don't Live in the World — It Lives in You 10:05 Why Scientists Refuse to Explain Reality 14:50 Where Joscha Disagrees with David Deutsch 21:10 What Would a Truly Intelligent Machine Actually Do? 25:00 Why Chess Destroys Good Minds 30:40 Can You Upload a Brain? What Neuroscience Gets Wrong 38:45 Why Einstein Needed a Body to Discover Relativity 46:00 AI Companies as Prophets of the New Religion 50:10 You Don't Die Because You Were Never Really Alive 57:50 Religion as a Civilizational Operating System 1:04:00 What the Torah Knew That Sam Harris Doesn't 1:12:00 What Is God, Actually? 1:18:00 What Bach University Would Teach 1:27:50 Confronting Your Own Death

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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
@LukeRobertMason Yes, especially since the idea of the 'Big Bang' was invented by a Jesuit physicist.
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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
A good way to think about advances in AI is as providing versions of humanity that we know all too well. They're the sort of people who might well say some useful things when you ask them, but you'd never want to hang out with them.
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@DarrinADurant You're the one promoting the idea of tacit knowledge, so it's up to you to tell me what you're talking about. I'm just helping you.
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Darrin Durant
Darrin Durant@DarrinADurant·
@ProfSteveFuller Well ‘spirit’ as geist is I think immaterial, not material? Or do you mean spirit as Hegel might have it, a kind of collective biography? Sorry cannot recall his German terms for it.
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If you want either people or AI to exercise #judgement, force them to rank order their proposed solutions to a problem and explain the ordering.
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@DarrinADurant Maybe. I've never seen the appeal of the idea, except as a self-censoring surrogate for 'spirit', in which case it should be discussed more openly in those terms. And then we can talk about spiritual media, etc.
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Darrin Durant
Darrin Durant@DarrinADurant·
@ProfSteveFuller We can be poor calculators and yet survive because we’re not fundamentally just calculating machines. That one was a bit too easy. If you think tacit knowledge is a phlogiston move, are you saying you think claims about tacit knowledge are claims about a material substrate?
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Steve Fuller@ProfSteveFuller·
When things don't go to expectations, they may still be going to plan. This part of what William James called 'the will to believe'. You may be heading in the right direction but you're making mistakes along the way. And that's fine.
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@DarrinADurant We're 'so poor' that we've managed to survive. There is such a thing as 'bounded rationality' (my PhD was on it). The idea that tacit knowledge exists in collectives is a phlogiston move. Explain the 'betweenness' that this view implies.
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Darrin Durant
Darrin Durant@DarrinADurant·
@ProfSteveFuller The typical answer is that tacit knowledge exists within collectives, within relations between collectives, and/or within bodies and brains. If we were just probabilistic blobs of flesh, why are humans so routinely poor calculators? Are you “captive to [Cartesian] Dogma”? 🤪🤓
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@DarrinADurant I don't believe in any literal sense of 'tacit knowledge'. (Where does it exist?) I believe that we too are making probabilistic judgements, just like the machines. They just operate with different hardware and software.
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Darrin Durant
Darrin Durant@DarrinADurant·
@ProfSteveFuller Are you sure it’s just me stuck in Dreyfusian Dogma? AI is incapable of possessing or exercising tacit knowledge, but that’s how you’ve just explained why humans know judgement when we see it.
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