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@Retro64__

3D & 2D Artist @SmashRemix - Modeler, Animator, Artist, Stage Designer @Mother_Encore - Artist @mother__squared - Lead Artist @NOKOGODO - Retired Staff + More

DK Isle Katılım Haziran 2022
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Retro64@Retro64__·
Hello everyone on Twitter! You might know me from working on projects like Smash Remix or the various MOTHER Projects I'm on. Decided it was finally time to make a twitter! Going to be posting my art here every so often so be sure to follow! Have a great day!
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@Danny8bit No prob! Figured this out when crosschecking credits and such lol A decent amount of games from that era was just replication of his style despite him still being at the company. Notables examples being the Game and Watch Gallery 2 & 3 art (he did do 4 though!)
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@TAHK0 Well I brought that up since the original post made it me assume you meant literally those renders. either way what I said about the harshness of the lighting and the material and rendering style still holds true. Bananza despite the changes still has all the mentioned attributes
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TAHK0 ☕️@TAHK0·
@Retro64__ I don’t think the lighting is a factor because Bananza seems to use the same DK model but the box art lighting is obviously very different than what they’d use for general marketing
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TAHK0 ☕️@TAHK0·
the new Star Fox renders look very similar to the other corporate Nintendo renders, which might have fun implications 1) just like DK’s redesign these might be Star Fox’s new default designs (not just remake) 2) Nintendo may be trying to set up Star Fox to be Nintendo’s BIG 6th
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Retro64@Retro64__·
Haven't much to say on the Starfox designs that hasn't been said, but wanted to talk about Falco. He bothers me more then anyone else because despite going for "realistic animals" doesn't look anything like a Blue Pheasant, but a non-descript bird with huge desaturated feathers
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@deggyweggy @Minjinx012 I give a pass on the size, mostly the colors I was talking about haha. Size can change based on the type of pheasant, with some having a shape alot more like Falco's typical one.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@D3nger_Z0N3 I think that inconsistency is weird yes lol. but also i think those features would line up more with older classic appearances of the character with the less muted colors and softer fuzzier "fur" just because thats what animal he is and has always resembled even if stylized
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Macabre@D3nger_Z0N3·
@Retro64__ I’m not trying to be mean when I say this, but slippy doesn’t look like any real frog, same thing for peppy being a rabbit, fox and wolf are really the only ones who look like their respective animals. Which is bizarre I admit.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@ddreamer9159 I mostly meant in regard to the colors and hair style more fuzzy "fur" looking appearance then the feathers which is also more in line with the classic look of the characters. I didn't mention the red skin for a reason haha
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Lycan Dreams@ddreamer9159·
@Retro64__ I forgive them for not pushing falco further. Can you imagine the discourse if they actually gave him the red skin over his eyes instead of red feathers, What texture it would have, if it wiggles when he moves his head.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@billyteeth They literally said the entire point of the redesigns was "to be more animalistic" and Falco in all previous games has more saturated colors and more fuzzy "fur" like appearance then large feathers. It would make him look more like the normal character then a like hawk lol
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Billy@billyteeth·
@Retro64__ Who gives a fuckin shit that he doesn’t look enough like a real pheasant, you can’t just make up random metrics they have to follow for no discernible reason. There’s no conceit the game has expressed that the animals are particularly true to life. Stupid shit
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@Minjinx012 As I said in the orginal post the new game's falco is has very muted colors and huge feathers on the head then smaller ones with a more "fur" like appearance. Look at the hair in the image there versus in the render its fuzz vs like 7 large feathers.
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Jack.@Minjinx012·
@Retro64__ He….quite literally looks exactly like this. Wym?
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@M_Vigik @PPDPPL_art Source?? I have literally never heard this ever. This doesn't make any sense considering the amount of lines he has in the games themselves or even more so with DKC2 and it's arcade machines and Video Game Hero ranking how do you hide that LOL
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Anne Finnelan@M_Vigik·
@Retro64__ @PPDPPL_art So yes, for branding they are referred as same because they precisely the same. Even the Rare devs knew. They said they deliberately left the Cranky thing meta and as a joke because they knew if they went to them straightfowardly about it, Nintendo would just Axe the character.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@M_Vigik @PPDPPL_art Ok but I didn't mention any of the things you brought up... you did lol Either way New Donk City's festival is said "This festival tells the story of our city's beginnings!" in Odyssey so clearly this event happened *before* Bananza as the city is well... built lol
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Anne Finnelan@M_Vigik·
@Retro64__ @PPDPPL_art Man, I don't know what to tell you: you make a couple of compelling arguments, but the same Bananza devs said to not take the fossils are just easter eggs, refused to disclose DK's age and Cranky's "dialogue" alluding to Mario in the eng version was made up by NoA localization
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@windchimefoley I think it can be done! Not saying it should be 1 to 1 but the darker and more saturated colors mixed with a more "Fur" looking appearance then that of large feathers. Would actually bring him closer to older appearances like the puppets or Zero lol
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zuli (was) @ NYCStuck 🏠@windchimefoley·
@Retro64__ i totally get what you mean. but unfortunately i don’t think there’s a single way to make him look cool like that
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@Art_Domino I suppose but I would argue there is some aspects that would make him more like his classic look like having a "furred" appearance with hair that comes to a point then large feathers that resemble an hawk or parrot of some sort. went into more detail here: x.com/Retro64__/stat…
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@Checomal Huh? lol no I just meant like, why are the colors so muted, why is the face made up of massive feathers then smaller "fur", especially on his pointed hairdo- where they are even larger like a cockatiel then a pheasant's more coming to a point style. I feel like its more in line.

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Art_ドミノ@Art_Domino·
@Retro64__ That would be too unrecognizable for most people. You already see that many ppl are having a hard time with the official designs and they’re not even that different. It’s choosing your battles.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@Checomal Huh? lol no I just meant like, why are the colors so muted, why is the face made up of massive feathers then smaller "fur", especially on his pointed hairdo- where they are even larger like a cockatiel then a pheasant's more coming to a point style. I feel like its more in line.
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MACOATL@Checomal·
@Retro64__ It's because trully realistic birds are scary.
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@felixmtz9830 yeah it is but didn't have enough room in the post for that haha
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@Retro64__ The puppet is more accurate with the animal
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@2ndartbook unsure if rhetorical, but saw in feed and wanted to answer LOL. tldr budget & gamescope. Unless a game is entierly about how expressive it is (wonder, mkw, bananza, etc.) pushing expressions takes a backseat. Think of Wario in his model vs 2D art same case x.com/Retro64__/stat…
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@wariocolosseum Just because they didn't ever care previously animate the brow before that doesn't mean it's impossible. Compare NSMB to Wonder same as that. more difficult expressions like the big teeth grit literally swap to a new model If really needed. It's not the redesign, its anim polish.

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Spike's Talk Book@2ndartbook·
"The old design was just as expressive as this one" Okay then why didnt they treat it like it was
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@PPDPPL_art They are just generally very loosey-goosey with this sorta thing then most other companies so nothing ever gets really "decanonized" its just not important... until it is lol
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Retro64@Retro64__·
@PPDPPL_art er thought I would be done but last thought is that this kinda just goes with how they treat their cast more as "Actors" with them recently even bringing up the term of "Troupes" and how Bowser is characterized differently per appearance
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