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@pythagoras999 @CathyYoung63 Upon reflection, my criticism would be more aimed at Hampshire College than Yale, yes, although I still think it’s crazy that someone graduating from *any* Yale program in anything could utter the words “I didn’t know what the Odyssey was”. My hope is that that’s hyperbole.

@RhythmDoc01 @CathyYoung63 Students would certainly be aware that it was based on Homer, which is different from reading Homer. But even aside from that, most drama post-grads wouldn't even take a full Greek Theater class like this, and only do a few monologues from it in a classical acting course.

That's more of a reflection on our educational system tbh. Yale????

@pythagoras999 @CathyYoung63 I’m saying that if someone is teaching Agamemnon and Cyclops without mentioning that they’re based on source material, and at least making sure the students are vaguely aware of what that source material is, they’re doing it wrong.

@RhythmDoc01 @CathyYoung63 So what? No one is claiming the playwrights weren't aware of Homer.

@allisonchopin @AliceFromQueens It’s certainly a major red flag, that’s for sure.

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens I have been seeing this same thing pop up a lot, so someone is out there telling young women to ask for this and it's stupid

27 years old and she thinks her third date is prom.

@pythagoras999 @CathyYoung63 Literally the first play listed is based on a character from the Iliad, and Cyclops is a scene from the Odyssey.

@RhythmDoc01 @CathyYoung63 I'm definitely telling you that. But you don't have to take my word; you can look up any Greek Drama syllabus from any school online. Homer is literature, not theater.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Well, or move somewhere with a higher concentration of non crazy women. My advice is go Midwest, young man!

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich The alternative for a guy is to stop trying, I guess? But that's not so appealing either.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich I would expect that mentality to expand the demands to beyond what’s achievable for anyone. If she were dating someone making mid six figures she’d expect a helicopter.

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich It's bleak on the other side. I happen to make very good money for a guy without a degree, but you can tell that baseline expectations being set are just out of reach for like 60% of working class guys.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich I will also submit — although maybe this is generational — that as someone who *could* afford this sort of thing, I would find it incredibly offputting.

@AliceFromQueens @RhythmDoc01 @BillJelavich 9s can get away with that. 6s and 7s will just be perpetually single, which is what we're seeing now.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Well, I will acknowledge that, while as with most physicians I have substantial social exposure across socioeconomic class, my dating history while living in NYC was almost exclusively college-educated PMC women. TIL.

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich The Kardashians, various other reality TV shows, and endless tiktoks have convinced lower class millennial women that men should spend a significant amount of disposable income on them. That's the crux of it.

@AliceFromQueens @soblackandblue @BillJelavich Yeah, that’s a little more reasonable, but I also think that “hey, can you pick somewhere closer, my car’s in the shop” is a much more reasonable response than “you’re sending an Uber, right?”

@soblackandblue @RhythmDoc01 @BillJelavich Bronx is almost all car ppl. that makes more sense

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Oh, that’s sort of interesting. Is it a safety thing? A “you’re the provider, provide!” thing? What’s the logic?

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich This is almost entirely a lower class pathology; none of the college educated girls I've dated are averse to riding the subway. Definitely not common among cosmopolitan white women. The one mentioned in OP might be some kind of model or SWer tbh.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Like I said, happily married, last helicopter out of Saigon, etc.

@RhythmDoc01 @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich A large percentage of women wish to be infantilized; social media has trained to believe that it's to be expected.

@AliceFromQueens @soblackandblue @BillJelavich And some of this is pure custom. I find it entirely natural for a man to pick up the check at dinner and pay for tickets, whatever, but also find it weird and borderline infantilizing for him to pay for transportation to and from the date. Maybe that’s just me.

@AliceFromQueens @soblackandblue @BillJelavich Oh, I misunderstood — he’s talking about the bartender he dated.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich And I’m slightly puzzled by the idea of a single person who’s wealthy enough to (a) live in Greenwich Village and (b) own a car but (c) cheap enough to demand her date send an Uber. Maybe her parents are supporting her? That’s all I can think.

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Between the two of those, I too would have predicted that it was the anesthesiologist who was more competent on public transportation; nobody makes it through residency in NYC without that level of competence.

@AliceFromQueens @soblackandblue @BillJelavich All I can say is that at least thirty years ago, I knew quite a lot of late-20’s female lawyers, investment bankers, and consultants, and I knew zero who couldn’t manage to take the subway a couple of stops during the day.

@RhythmDoc01 @soblackandblue @BillJelavich She could walk or bike

@soblackandblue @AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich Unless they’re literally Paris Hilton, how is a 27 year old woman living in Greenwich Village getting to work every day? She’s never been to Central Park except by taking a taxi or Uber? That’s just bizarre.

@AliceFromQueens @BillJelavich I know, I meant the "never taking a subway" thing. If you're not forced to take the subway for work, it's very easy to convince yourself that you're too good to take it at all.

@gowronseyes @pythagoras999 @CathyYoung63 Don’t take this the wrong way, but I think you should be disappointed in your education if you actually believe that.

@RhythmDoc01 @pythagoras999 @CathyYoung63 Why would you do that? All you need to do is read the play. The rest is immaterial.

@RhythmDoc01 some are

@zapatas_mom @prettycritical @mostillusive She’s a lunatic. This is a 15 minute subway ride for any competent adult, during the day. Send her home in one at 2 AM? Eh, maybe, although I still think it’s weird for him to pay for that even if he picks up the check at dinner (which he should). For brunch? He dodged a bullet.

@prettycritical @mostillusive She’s correct. He offered a date that’s convenient FOR HIM in his neighborhood. Why can’t he plan something in her area so he travels? Or suggest a middle point? She found him equally entitled.

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