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Richard Garvin

@RichardJGarvin

producer, politics, comedy

London, England Katılım Temmuz 2012
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd Sorry, not clear. You said there was a Wire second half that was 69 minutes, with the extra 29 minutes being simply ‘video ref’. That is clearly crackers. But just wanted to check - was that really the case? Bonkers if it was. But was it really half an hour of VR..?
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Rod Studd
Rod Studd@Rod_Studd·
It’s also an illogical mess which will mean what’s checked will expand to corners, all yellow cards. Then FKs, throw ins etc. Anyone who’d seen video officiating vandalise other sports realised that. It’s currently bringing RL to a total standstill 30 yrs after its introduction.
Adam Summerton@adamsummerton

I really hope there can be a sensible discussion about whether football moves away from VAR It’s been a number of years now, these aren’t teething troubles anymore, this is an addition to the game that currently takes more away than it gives, with no prospect of that changing. Yes, there’ll be more things missed, but things like spontaneity & flow contribute hugely to what makes football so great - the trade off, arguably, hasn’t been worth it. We still get human error, and always will - it just takes a lot longer with VAR

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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd 29 minutes of video ref in a single half is clearly insane. Was that really the case? 29 minutes of video ref? Really?
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd It’s not enough to simply say ‘video ref’ though. Depends what the VR was looking at. You can have video ref for different things. If Captain’s challenge is the issue for you, fine, scrap it. But that’s not remotely what I’m talking about.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd I’m not arguing in favour of using a VR or not - I am simply saying the new system of awarding a try, then reviewing it without pausing the game, reduces the time that the VR takes to adjudicate in that specific instance. That’s it - a very simple observation.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd And for the love of god, my only point was about using the VR after tries - you keep bringing it back to captain’s challenge.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd Don’t be coy Rod, just trying to get to the bottom of the issue. What was the breakdown of the extra 29 minute second half that Wire played?
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd Sorry, cross purposes, assumed you were talking about the 69 minute second half you said Wire played earlier in the thread. That’s an extra 29 minutes apparently. So what was the. Real down of that?
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Rod Studd
Rod Studd@Rod_Studd·
@RichardJGarvin It’s like you’re in a different universe. It’s hudders vs saints
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd Erm, you said a Wire second half lasted 69 minutes. Did you not?
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd You said a Wire second half lasted 69 minutes, so 29 extra minutes.
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Rod Studd
Rod Studd@Rod_Studd·
@RichardJGarvin I’ve literally no idea whst you’re talking about. That was a half with only 3 tries
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd It’s literally not just ‘counting’ though Rod. Those numbers, stripped of any comparative statistical analysis, are essentially meaningless.
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Rod Studd
Rod Studd@Rod_Studd·
@RichardJGarvin It’s literally counting Richard. You can close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and sing Lady Gaga’s Poker Face but the numbers won’t change. If you think they’re ok good luck to you. I paid money to watch the 68 and the 57.
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Mudhutter@mudhutter·
Makerfield isn't a proper place, anywhere else where the council weren't small time idiots would call it Wigan East
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Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd But the biggest plus of the new system is we have reintroduced try celebrations. Refs are now free to award tries; players and fans are free to celebrate. And - crucially - Sky no longer automatically cut away to a static shot of the ref talking to the VR after every goddam try.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@Rod_Studd I simply can’t see how the new system, whereby the VR reviews all tries but the game continues until they see evidence to overturn, can do anything other than shorten the number of pauses after tries. Captain’s challenge is an entirely different issue.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@markg80 @Rod_Studd Every try is reviewed, but the review only triggers a pause in the game if there’s reason to overturn. Previously almost all tries caused a pause, that’s nowhere near the case now.
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Richard Garvin
Richard Garvin@RichardJGarvin·
@markg80 @Rod_Studd Sorry, I don’t follow your logic. Completely agree we’d reached a ridiculous point where almost all tries were being VR referred, automatically delaying the game. But that’s not the case now: more tries are now given, and the game is *only* paused if there’s reason to overturn.
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