Rick James

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Rick James

Rick James

@RickJames147288

Katılım Ağustos 2023
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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@Zaphod2042 T26 cost 4x what t23s cost, when accounting for inflation. Seeing an increase from 2.5% to 3.5% is only a 50% increase not the 300% increase required, this isn't possible. Problem isn't funding, this has risen, its that the t26 is a crazy expensive design.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox 🇺🇦@Zaphod2042·
The original Type 23 fleet was comprised of sixteen ships. Which was backed up by about ten of the ten Type 22 Frigates. Getting to 16x Type 26 and 10x Type 31 would be an adequate return to 1990s strength. Not a chance in hell of it happening under current Govt, or last one.
Robert Clark@RobertClark87

Al Carns couldn't be more wrong. If you think 8 Type 26 frigates are 'the right number', then you are delusional, and should be allowed nowhere near the conversation.

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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@EleyWilhel484 @HoyasFan07 Ok what part of the military would you cut to pay for it, because a increase in the budget from 2.5% to 3.5% is less than an 50% increase, and t26 is 100% more than t23 already. So what are we cutting to prioritise t26.
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Good Shepherd
Good Shepherd@HoyasFan07·
During the Cold War, the UK spent an average of 5.5% GDP on defense. Over the past decade, the average has been 2.1%. The current level is 2.3%. The UK currently has no credible plans to reach 3% let alone 3.5% (as the Germans & Nordics are doing).
Rick James@RickJames147288

@HoyasFan07 The fact that the type 26 is ~£1 billion while the type 23 was more like ~250 million is the problem Do we have 4x more money than during the cold war to spend on frigates?

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andy97@andy9716·
@RickJames147288 @HoyasFan07 We built 16 Type 23s but only building 8 Type 26. And at 2026 prices a T23 would cost about £450M (St Albans - the last T23 - cost about £110M at 2002 prices & was cheapest to be built)
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Good Shepherd
Good Shepherd@HoyasFan07·
Me within the past 48 hours: the RN should acquire not just 8 ASW frigates but more like 10. This: lol forget 8 we might cut it down to 6.
Modern Royal Navy@ModernNavy

Reports have emerged that the MoD is cutting the order of Type 26 frigates from 8 to 6 – a deal to give 2 to Norway – while there are persistent rumours that a programme to replace the Type 45 destroyers will be pushed back, writes Matt Oliver @Telegraph archive.is/2026.04.12-055…

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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@HoyasFan07 Ok so each france and UK have a gdp of ~3.4 trillion each vs 1.8 trillion for all nordic countries. Point still stands. Why are they generating more capability for less money. Possibly because they don't blow it all on asw frigates the size and cost of cruisers.
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Good Shepherd
Good Shepherd@HoyasFan07·
good practice to read posts before reflexively commenting.
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Rick James@RickJames147288

@HoyasFan07 Pretty sure france and the uk outspend the nordics many times to over. Scandinavias ecomony at 1.8 trillion is nearly 4x smaller than uk and Frances 6.8 trillion usd combined gdp. Even at ~2% they spend far more than Scandinavia at 3.5%.

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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@JonoCC @HoyasFan07 We have already spent 8 billion on 8 ships, twice what we spent on 16 type 23s. Do we have more than twice our cold war budget for frigates. We are already tapped out.
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Jonathan@JonoCC·
@RickJames147288 @HoyasFan07 Also the size of orders factors into this, the second batch of T26 are much cheaper than batch one, sub £900mil.
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Rick James@RickJames147288·
@JeremyN80616364 The first 8 cost 8 bill. Thats already double the t23s budget, before any more scaling spending, any more spending will surelydig into other parts of the military. Also if scaling is so effective why is norwegian contract 10 bill for 5 t26s.
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JeremyNorman
JeremyNorman@JeremyN80616364·
The first 5 cost 1 billion each, the next 3 cost 850 million, if we built 16 they would cost like 600 million each for all 16 ships because the price plummets after the 6th ships if you just print the new ship.
Rick James@RickJames147288

@HoyasFan07 The fact that the type 26 is ~£1 billion while the type 23 was more like ~250 million is the problem Do we have 4x more money than during the cold war to spend on frigates?

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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@HoyasFan07 Pretty sure france and the uk outspend the nordics many times to over. Scandinavias ecomony at 1.8 trillion is nearly 4x smaller than uk and Frances 6.8 trillion usd combined gdp. Even at ~2% they spend far more than Scandinavia at 3.5%.
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Good Shepherd
Good Shepherd@HoyasFan07·
if France and the UK continue to underspend on defense, the 4 nordics (combined population 30M) will fairly soon have greater net conventional military capabilities than either of them. one could probably argue that they already do in some areas of conventional military
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Rick James@RickJames147288·
@BearJFK Wait, the germans with thier 200 billion usd budget for the taking. Not to mention the rest of europe with a combined budget of over 600 billion, don't restrict yourself with brexit bollocks.
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JamesFennell MBE@FennellJW·
Skyhammer interceptor drones have 30km range, making them a low cost alternative to Sky Sabre in the range bracket. Unit cost similar to the 4km ranged Thales LMM/Martlet missile used by Rapid Sentry - around £25K. The much cheaper (£3k) UK-Ukraine Octopus drone has 6km range.
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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@RealAirPower1 I mean its not like it would of been an export success. How many people bought the f111, only the Australians. Why did we put all our resources into developing a aircraft that hardly anyone could afford, let alone ourselves. Why not a mirage 3 or draken equivalent?
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Air Power@RealAirPower1·
On this day in 1965, the UK Labour Government axed the BAC TSR-2 in favor of the General Dynamics F-111. It was the last real attempt by Britain to "single-handedly" design and build a top-tier combat aircraft. A technical marvel that looked like it belonged in the future, the TSR-2 unfortunately became one of aviation’s greatest "what ifs." Even decades later, it’s hard not to wonder how British airpower would have evolved if the "White Bird" had actually entered service. Anyway, #avgeeks, do you think the TSR-2 could have truly outclassed the Aardvark, or was the project just too ambitious for its own good?
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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@drgarethmottram @blagden_david But there were loads of them. Expecting both quality and quantity is the worse kind of trying to have your cake and eat it. In reality it is an either or choice. If you want quality don't complain about not being able to fulfill the rule of 3.
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David Blagden
David Blagden@blagden_david·
Just immediately deploying a 10-ship squadron, that happened to be in Gibraltar, at a day’s notice, as Britain could a mere four decades ago…
On This Day RN@OnthisdayRN

#OnThisDay 1982 Rear Admiral Sandy Woodward, who was in Gibraltar in HMS ANTRIM, given orders under Operation CORPORATE. At 2130 he was told that Argentina had invaded #Falklands The next day he sailed South In HMS GLAMORGAN with 10 ships to begin the formation of the Task Force

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Gabriele Molinelli@Gabriel64869839·
The 2 things that bleed UK defence budget dry are Nuclear & GCAP. I honestly fear they can't coexist and this GCAP contract rumored to cover just 3 months is as close to an admission they can't as we ever got so far. Stop fantasizing about making Nuclear even more expensive.
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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@HoyasFan07 Thats ~1.2 trillion usd in spending. The russians spend 150 billion, why do we need to outspend the russians 8 to 1.
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Good Shepherd
Good Shepherd@HoyasFan07·
If you want to defend Europe without the US you'll need to spend 5% GDP on defense. Not "at some point in the future when conditions allow" but now. And that's 5% core. UK currently at 2.3%. Fiscal situation means the defense hike would need to be deficit neutral meaning
Labour Future@LabourfutureUK

For too long the UK has been reliant on the United States. We must work with NATO but we must also massively invest in our own defence and have a truly independent Nuclear deterrent. The fleet, army and air force is too small. This has to change. news.sky.com/story/uk-and-n…

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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@TBrit90 Super cool but Teledyne is a us company, as we make this technological transition are we jump out of the frying pan into the fire.
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Corporal Frisk@CorporalFrisk·
@RickJames147288 @BoeingEurope ITAR isn't dependent on the ownership of the company, but on which country (countries) issue the export permissions. As long as the export controlled parts and IP-rights rests with an Australian company, ITAR isn't an issue.
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Rick James
Rick James@RickJames147288·
@FennellJW Joint project with the europeans to fund it. Focus on cruise missile with a single warhead, then maybe a single warhead ballistic or hypersonic cruise.
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