Adam Conrad

This is why a loving God permits a hell to exist

@5SolasMissy So Acts 16:30 after the jailer asks "sirs what must I do to be saved?" Paul's answer should have been what?..... "Nothing, Jesus did it all on the cross outside of you and there's nothing you can do"?

Adam, you keep implying it’s not boasting, but you still insist on starting with yourself and that’s the issue. The question is WHY are you saved, not what’s happened to you. “I’ve been washed” is the result, not the reason. You’re pointing to the effect and treating it like the ground Scripture never anchors assurance in you doing something but in what Christ did outside of you. Why the need to begin with yourself at all when the gospel begins with Christ crucified? “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

Salvation is a gift, not anything of ourselves because God doesn’t want anyone boasting in His sight. How many times have you seen someone boast in themselves? When you ask them the reason they’re saved, quite often we see them begin with “Because I…”

@5SolasMissy No one's arguing that. But my statement is scripturally correct and begins with "because I". Doesn't mean I earned anything or deserve anything, but I've had my sins washed away "because I" am graciously washed in his blood. Y'all don't get to gatekeep answers to salvation

@RossDillinger Can’t be washed in the blood unless Jesus first shed it for you

@5SolasMissy Eis is used close to 1700 times in the NT and it's never once used looking back as because of. It's always forward looking as UNTO. That's absolutely incorrect. Gar is the Greek word "because". Was Jesus' blood shed because sins were already forgiven in Matt 26:28? Same phrase

For the remission of sins here = because of. I take medicine for a headache (because of). Eis can mean cause or because of, but not here Peter said earlier “To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” -Acts 10:43 Baptism in Acts is consistently tied to salvation, but as the visible response of faith, not the cause of it. The Greek doesn’t force in order to be forgiven,” and the immediate context which is Paul calling on the Lord, plus the rest of scripture makes it clear sins are washed away by faith in Christ. Water baptism is the outward expression of that reality, not the mechanism that creates it Paul tells us the gospel is the power of salvation for all who believe. He also says Christ didn’t send him to baptize but to preach the gospel and thanks God he baptized no one but a select few. If water baptism were the mechanism which people are saved and forgiven, then Paul’s ministry makes no sense

Making commandment keeping in order to receive salvation isn’t salvation by grace through faith If you’re relying on obeying any part of the Law, even just the 10 commandments for justification, you’re under a curse. The law demands perfection, not partial obedience Rely on solely on Christ and you’re justified apart from it

@jackrwilkie It's like brutalism for gen z

Death to minimalism

@5SolasMissy What does Peter mean that baptism is "for the remission of sins" in Acts 2? And Paul recounting his conversion in Acts 22 was commanded to be baptized to have his sins washed away? Does the Greek indicate sins were already washed away for these individuals?

Yes. Jesus tells us to go and do many things including give to the poor, share the gospel, get water baptized.. but we don’t do those things in order to be saved. We do those things and obey Him because we are saved and because we love Him. My argument is that an adulterous won’t live that way. God disciplines those He loves. If a Christian commits adultery, that’s sun that Christ has already paid for and they can’t be sent to hell for it. There’s no condemnation for those who are in Christ. Christians still sin. Eventually, if given enough time here on earth, that Christian will stop living that way

@5SolasMissy No. But 9 of the 10 are absolutely repeated in the NT (sabbath being excluded). I would argue we are required to keep these, would you disagree? Is it your argument you can live in adultery and be saved?

@RossDillinger So you believe we have to keep the 10 commandments in order to be saved?

@5SolasMissy We don't agree. I believe we're required to keep commandments. Not the law, but commandments found in the NT (where 9 of the 10 are found). You say a homosexual will repent. I guarantee there are believing homosexuals who've died in their unrepentant sin, so that doesn't follow

Why are you forcing a divide that doesn’t exist? You do realize we agree, right? I’m trying to figure out where you think we actually disagree.. Repentance and belief aren’t the same thing, but they’re inseparable. Repentance is a turning, belief is the direction you turn to. You don’t have one without the other. A homosexual will change their mind about their perversion bc they’ve been given a new heart. Maybe not always immediately bc sanctification takes time, but eventually they will. If they don’t and they’ve been confronted by the church with proper discipline, they’re to be considered as an unbeliever “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.” -1 John 3:9-10

@5SolasMissy Are you saying belief and repentance are the same thing? Is that what that last statement is? Is a believing homosexual not required to repent of their perversion?

Exactly. Repentance is going from unbelief to belief. Like Jesus said, “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.” So why would you ask me about repentance as if I don’t think we have to believe?

@5SolasMissy Change of mind that results in a change of direction. Acts 3:19

@RossDillinger Define repent, then we can go from there

@5SolasMissy When Christ says unless you repent you'll die in your sins, you don't see that as a salvation issue?

@RossDillinger Exactly what He says.. if we love Him, we keep His commandments. That’s true in my life, hopefully in yours too. Christ tells us to go and do many things, just not in order to be saved

@5SolasMissy So when Christ says in John 14:15 if you love me keep my commandments, what is he referring to here? Is it then your argument that we don't need to obey that?

@RossDillinger None. We just obey the call to believe the gospel for salvation. Jesus obeyed all of the commandments on behalf of His people. Gentiles we’re never under the Law to begin with

@SamuelC13877599 Nice! Honestly I'm still trying to get my bearings around the PSA stuff with how it seemingly came out of left field for a lot of folks, myself included. But yea I'll check this series out man, I appreciate it! Loved the discussion between you guys, they're great company

@RossDillinger Ya got me. I am in 3 earlier episodes of The Overlap Life where the material is more comprehensive than what Ernie, Aaron, and I have done so far. Ask me anything. I’m in the first 5-6 here, but here is the PSA critique playlist that is 65+ videos now: youtube.com/playlist?list=…

Designed to only work logically within limited atonement or universalism. The rest is double jeopardy, and it goes against the Biblical definition of forgiveness which is release, not exacting a payment. Parable of unmerciful servant is accurate. Prodigal Son is accurate.

@ScaryChart The essence of the original post is fathers chosing to come to Christ first and leading their families there vs any other member. Calvinism denies that it's even a choice in accordance with the U and I part of TULIP. The post is in direct contrast with what his side believes

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics I'm not really sure what you're asking

Calvinists dont believe Calvinism.

@ScaryChart @J17apologetics Also, I'll just stick to reading my bible. It's wild how the sola scriptura folks always cleave to creeds, confessions, and ecumenical councils. Not very sola scriptura of you

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics No it's just you who doesn't understand. Read the Institutes of the Christian Religion. So you might understand what he's talking about

@ScaryChart @J17apologetics Clearly they don't either, so we're in the same boat

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics Everything he posted and said, works fine with calvinism. Clearly you don't understand it