ScaryChart

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics I'm not really sure what you're asking

@ScaryChart @J17apologetics It isn't just me. There's a litany of folks who poke endless holes in Calvinist theology. Might you explain how a father "choosing" Christ fits with unconditional election?

Calvinists dont believe Calvinism.

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics That's also not what solar scripture means

@ScaryChart @J17apologetics Also, I'll just stick to reading my bible. It's wild how the sola scriptura folks always cleave to creeds, confessions, and ecumenical councils. Not very sola scriptura of you

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics No it's just you who doesn't understand. Read the Institutes of the Christian Religion. So you might understand what he's talking about

@ScaryChart @J17apologetics Clearly they don't either, so we're in the same boat

@RossDillinger @J17apologetics Everything he posted and said, works fine with calvinism. Clearly you don't understand it

@J17apologetics They slip up from time to time. It's like that meme post from a flat earth page that says "there are flat earth societies all over the globe".

@Photios_VII @redeemed_zoomer @LizzieMarbach I don't know any reformed that would say that about the church father's. Some Baptist have a issue with anything outside of the Bible and I agree it's a problem.

@redeemed_zoomer @LizzieMarbach Some of the Baptist and Reformed are the worse, saying things like we're idolaters and the Church Fathers were idolaters. Which is basically like saying we're anathema. There are harsh words from every side.

.@redeemed_zoomer describes the reaction he received when he began to respectfully defend his Protestant beliefs against RCC and EO. “There was a severe hostility and nastiness from those communities the second I began to criticize them slightly, which reminded me a lot of the leftist I encountered in high school.” Yup, unfortunate reality. This is the exact same thing that I’ve been saying for a long time too. Same exact experience.

@nashcatholicc @GradyMusk0 @espekadaengrish @WesleyLHuff @HwsEleutheroi I think to your definition of kind and charitable, would find them not

@ScaryChart @GradyMusk0 @espekadaengrish @WesleyLHuff @HwsEleutheroi No I wouldn’t say that about the apostles. Notice I didn’t use the word “nice.” I said kind and charitable. Those qualities are more than present in the apostles.

A great pleasure to hang out with @HwsEleutheroi. last night. When I was a lot younger James was very formative for me. Among a list of names who really introduced me into the world of things like New Testament studies, biblical manuscripts, Reformed theology, and apologetics, was James. Very fun to share a meal and talk shop. And yes, I did give him a Wes Huff manuscript facsimile.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff I don't remember that way. But I'll look it up

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Buddy the same verse state why

My mood scrolling through X today.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff He descended into hades, but we don't know why. If you can show me proof that he descended in for that reason. you might have a point

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Last time I check he descended into hades for them.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Not during the old covenant, which is what i'm talking about. He only saved israel. He Didn't save babylon he didn't save the hitites or the persians. Now he's opened up salvation to the world, an insurers that it's effective to his elect.

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Did he not save the other nations also? If he did your argument makes no sense. So please answer my question

God loves all men. God has a special love for the elect. God wills that all men repent and be saved. God wills that the elect infallibly repent and be saved. God provides Christ to die for the sins of all mankind. God provides Christ to die effectually for the sins of the elect alone. God provides sufficient grace for all, through the gospel, that they may believe and be saved. God provides efficacious grace to the elect that they may infallibly believe and be saved.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff He chose Israel to be his people. He was the one that saved them and secured them. He does the same with those who are predestined

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff What are you using the word chose to mean? Because he didn’t give them faith and then didn’t give it to the others. So again does God show favoritism?

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff When he chose israel over all other nations was that favoritism?

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff So he shows favoritism?

@nashcatholicc @GradyMusk0 @espekadaengrish @WesleyLHuff @HwsEleutheroi I'm sure you'd say the same about the apostles

@GradyMusk0 @espekadaengrish @WesleyLHuff @HwsEleutheroi I personally wouldn’t say he’s “not a good person” because that’s a judgment above my pay grade. But I would say he does not come off as a kind or charitable person.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff No, just those who he predestined from before the foundations of the earth.

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Does he give everyone that gift?

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff It's a gift from God

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Do you think faith is mental assent?

@KrystoKing @RonaldsRDonalds @WesleyLHuff that's our disagreement

@ScaryChart @RonaldsRDonalds @WesleyLHuff Faith is works padawan

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff I think you may have a misunderstanding of protestantism. That might be the disconnect. Protestant hold justification through faith that would make those other things you mentioned secondary issues and not enough to separate us

Recognizing each other as the same because of share doctrine and sacraments where each can go and receive communion so for example Lutherans and Anglicans believe it’s a grave sin to not baptize infants Baptist don’t that’s two different church and doctrine another example Lutherans believe Chris is present in communion Baptist believe it’s just symbolic and only bread and wine how can they even be in communion when they don’t even have the same view on communion 😭

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff What does being in communion mean to you?

No they’re not they Baptist aren’t even in communion with other Baptist. Anglicans aren’t even in communion with other Anglicans if I ask many Anglican today if the lady in Canterbury is their bishop they’ll say no while some will say yes. So again come to The Church Christ establish

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Reformed, Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, are in communion. That's most of the Protestants.

Buddy, not all Protestants believe the same thing, and they don’t all share communion either. There are nearly a billion Protestants across thousands of denominations, and a lot of them don’t agree on major doctrines or practices. Orthodoxy, on the other hand, is one Church, which fits with Christ’s prayer for unity. So no, Protestantism isn’t one unified Church in that same sense. The only real thing holding a lot of it together is historical opposition to Rome and some shared ideas, not full agreement in doctrine or sacraments. That’s why Orthodoxy is called the second largest branch of Christianity ☺️.

@RonaldsRDonalds @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff There's almost a billion protestants in the world. There's only two hundred million orthodox. What are you talking about?

@ScaryChart @KrystoKing @WesleyLHuff Hence why it’s the second largest branch of Christianity 😊.