@jchensor @Chindogg21 That being said you’re fine with running top 8s at ft2 then instead of 3 right?
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Rushdeezy
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@jchensor @Chindogg21 I don’t want to argue about this sure. 15% of sets having a different result doesn’t change anything.
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Once again, anyone asking for FT3 needs to TO one event. Even if it's a local.
You'll understand quickly why it's a bad idea.
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@HoldBackToBark This would be a sick burn if literally anyone on earth enjoyed playing sf2 for money.
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Capcom needs to bring back Vega wall dive, make it crush parry, and make it +2 on block in throw/shimmy range, so that the people trapped in SF6 can learn what an actually toxic top tier is like
Brutus 🇨🇦@Le_Brutus
"Why yes, this top 32 of 26 Mai players is actually very entertaining"
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@SimplySOUF They’ll make up the extra 20 minutes by not delaying pools when a top player is late.
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@RushdownX From the time they get called. Sit down, do button check ect ect..
Some sets can go on for a while, on the other hand folks that been around make it quick. At these bigger tournaments we gotta account for folks doing it for their first time. Not every set gonna be 30 min tho
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 Listen you can talk about the logistics of running an event as a TO using your experience but you clearly don’t understand math or competitions if you think there’s no difference between a ft2/3/5 set.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 Thats even worse for more people, I dont get what your point is
Ft2 to ft3 is irrelevant
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 No offense. No one really cares about your 150-200 person regional having 20 more sets run at ft3. People are talking about events with thousands+ entrants that qualify you for million dollar prize pool events.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 I am a TO my dude
Just had a 200 ppl event this weekend
Logistica is all fucked when this game goes from ft2 to ft3
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 Listen if you’re a casual Fgc fan a couple hundred bucks isn’t stopping you from going to your 1-2 events a year.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 And less people coming, reducing accessibility of FGC events
The game is fucked and no ft3 can fix that
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 I guarantee you many players would be in favor of higher venue fees if it actually resulted in a better quality event for them so I don’t know why you’d say no one would abide by that.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 Yeah youre agaisnt the whole fgc for events to be cheaper
The gotcha part is that no one really abides with that
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 I’ve been arguing venue fees needed to go up for almost a decade at this point. Not really a gotcha.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 Then pay up for the budget make up for another day of venue
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@giraocore @Chindogg21 It is not. If you can’t do it someone else will(other events have already shown they can do ft3). Someone who is spending thousands of dollars a year to travel and compete has options.
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@RushdownX @Chindogg21 We being able to run the tournament is definitely of the players concern
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@idiotwolf Game played for million dollar prize pools should have the same format as game played by salary men for fun. Yes. This is an intelligent argument.
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@RushdownX You mean 2022 into 2023 right? Because after Capcom cup 9 there's only a handful of tournaments especially once 6 dropped. And the 2022 season was a covid season so everything was still online for qualifiers or very insular.
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The game as is is not unstable, I've done the math! The same players relatively consistently make top 32 about 63-70% of the time.
WBG MenaRD🇩🇴(最強)@_MenaRD__
I wonder how feasible it would be to have FT2 pools and early tournament stages, but switch to FT3 for top 32. Would make competition so much more stable, deeper layers in the game and doesn’t seem like a lot of time added for the event. It would be amazing.
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@Chindogg21 @palutenabair It certainly helps. Part of the reason high damage decreases the skill gap is it limits the time for adaptation. An extra game guarantees an extra amount of interactions which purely benefits the stronger player.
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@RushdownX @palutenabair An additional game isn't going to fix that lol
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@TommyToledoFGC I think people have just accepted that the volatility is intentional at this point.
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Like we are admitting there is a problem with the game that requires something to change did we just give up expecting that to be the game?
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For an active game that receives patches currently I do think its strange to ask for ft3 instead of like lowering damage or throw loops or something. Both decisions would have to come from capcom
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@Chindogg21 @palutenabair Competition received a boost from the lowering of the skill ceiling and the damage going up/throw loops.
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@RushdownX @palutenabair I don't consider that volatility but a higher pool of competitors.
Competition is that high and an extra game doesn't reduce that pool by a statistically significant amount.
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@RushdownX I can but that doesn't work as well because it was all online. But it's gonna be the same people you are currently still seeing because great players are great players
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@Chindogg21 @palutenabair Look at chess as an example. Magnus Carlsen wins pretty much whatever he enters even in the lower time control higher volatility formats. You could make a version of chess where an actual AI makes every 3rd move completely at random and Magnus would still be the favorite.
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@Chindogg21 @palutenabair Every event being won by 30-40 players is still a more volatile outcome than every event being won by 10 players. Consistency isn’t a binary thing it’s not all or nothing.
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@Chindogg21 @palutenabair It’s about a 10% change when going from a 6-4 matchup to a 7-3. So if you think that’s a significant change(most players would counter pick rather than play a 7-3) then I’d say yeah 5% over potentially 100+ sets definitely has an impact.
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