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@Wanderer071189 Okay, that makes a lot of sense actually, I’m trackin’! Thank you so much!

Trial practice (and legal practice in general) is a lot more than you learn in school. How you come across to the jury is more important than any case law you can cite. That jury has seen some horrible stuff and they've been there for days already. The last thing they want to see is the prosecutor jumping up for pro forma objections to things that in their eyes don't matter, because that just draws it out and looks unnecessary. So the prosecution is likely to just let the defense attorney do his thing.

Serious question. Why did Karmelo Anthony even opt to go to trial for killing Austin Metcalf? What am I missing?

Austin was not 230 pounds at the time of his death, but nice try. I think they said 211. Karmelo is also a year older, so “little” boy is a nice cover for the kid calling everyone bitches and pussies, unless you’re cherry picking testimony to fit your own racial bias. Keep justifying senseless murder, you haven’t turned everyone racist yet! This case could be what does it! I would just hate to be as fukking hateful as you and justify murder because of the color of someone’s skin.

@itzRex So he stabbed him in the heart lol.. do you guys not see what’s wrong here or you just racially blind

BREAKING 🚨 Hunter (NOT AUSTIN) initiated contact with Karmelo first ! New testimony stated: “HUNTER METCALF didn’t TOLERATE “disrespect” and initiated the contact with Karmelo Anthony under the tent by TELLING NOT ‘ASKING’ Karmelo to leave ! Karmelo was minding his business, talking to his friends, when he responded to Hunter telling him to leave saying: “nobody’s got a problem with me being here but you” This confirms they were bullying Karmelo !

@Wanderer071189 Thanks for the clarification and response! I’ve been wanting a licensed attorney’s opinion on some of this because my education only goes so far.

From what I've seen, eh, maybe. The prosecution is probably giving the defense attorneys a lot of leeway here. If they try something actually objectionable, I'm sure the prosecutor won't let them get away with it, but at this point you just let them put on the show for the client and don't jump up every time the other side leads a little.

@SarahisCensored @JinxedRealityX Didn’t he just say this isn’t about race, it’s about due process? He can’t keep his lies straight 😂

Racism is their only defense. You know I’m right. In what world does someone stab another person at a high school track meet and not get arrested? The answer is none.

@sippicup2 That woman has a lot of anger.

Voodoo lady again

@TheBrancaShow Hopefully he isn’t actually a practicing attorney somewhere

It most certainly DOES NOT. Below is the ENTIRETY of Texas Penal Code §9.32. Show me where the word "legitimate" appears. You can not, because it DOES not. Indeed, NO STATE IN AMERICA uses the word "legitimate" in its self-defense statute. You really suck at this. No offense. _______________ § 9.32. Deadly Force in Defense of Person. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another: (1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or (B) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery. (c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section. (d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.

@Wanderer071189 @fightformetcalf What’s your opinion on the defense line of questioning with their minor witnesses? Did you find it leading? Thanks!

As a career criminal defense attorney, it doesn't surprise me that he went to trial. Would have surprised me more if he didn't. The prosecutor has no reason at all to cut him any sort of leniency. Nor should he. He would have been pleading to the charges as filed. I'm not sure how Texas does sentencing but not inclined to think it's in any way going to go his way. Just as an educated guess, a plea might have gotten him 20 years instead of life. On top of that, he definitely has a nonzero chance of winning here. Not through any conventional means of course, but through a combination of jury nullification and jury intimidation they just might swing a juror, and then all bets are off. And he could also just be high on his own supply. He's got a legion of supporters out there thinking he should and will go free. He may be believing his own bullshit. Given the genius plan that landed him in this situation, it'd be in character.

I’ve got a question, the defense line of questioning, I am not sure which witness, it was someone I’ve been following her posting testimony - in cases where juveniles testify, is there more leniency on leading the witnesses? To me, from what was typed out, it was like the defense was basically testifying and wanting yes or no answers. Thanks if you’ve got time for a response’

WTF? DEFENSE DOESNT KNOW? Defense team seems rattled. They knew this was coming as all parties have been deposed before trial. Perhaps the reaction from a juror has "spooked" them. Any seasoned lawyer should expect this reaction. Jurors dont see these graphic photos on a daily basis Sounds like they are trying to "regroup". They better for their defense of their client.

@KaelBen3b @BMcFarland28 @jdmiles11 Show us this testimony because obviously my reading comprehension isn’t up to par with yours.

@BMcFarland28 @SavyPacker @jdmiles11 What does it mean? Testimony said Austin was trying to intimidate Karmelo.

@KosherHeilung @JTAlexander I’m not OP… but… No, because he was a juvenile at the time of the offense. See Roper v Simmons.

@JTAlexander Can he get death penalty for this? one can only hope.

99% of lawsuits, criminal or civil, resolve before trial. This leads to a notion that if a case goes to trial, it must be a close one. In my experience, this is not true. Of the 1% that go to trial, 0.1%-0.2% is a close issue. 0.8%-0.9% is because the Defendant is delusional. They are usually too stupid or self-centered to understand that their defense is complete nonsense that the law doesn’t recognize. Sometimes they refuse to take a plea deal because it’s “worse than the last one.” They think the fact they claim couldn’t get a ride to Court lets them off the hook for Failure to Appear. They think the fact the store has a company policy against using force to stop thieves makes them immune from a Robbery charge when they use force against the employees. They think that because what they stole is worth only $5 that it cannot possibly be a felony that they stole that item at knifepoint. They think that because they got 9 months on their last misdemeanor that the 2-4 year presumptive sentence on their felony is absurd. They think that because their zero-prior juvenile co-defendant only got probation that it’s unreasonable for a career criminal on his third felony to get more than a year. These are all examples of not only cases I have personally prosecuted, but have personally encountered *multiple times.* Not “multiple times over a 20-year career.” Multiple times *every single year.* I absolutely do not doubt whatsoever that Karmelo genuinely believed that stabbing someone over violating the utterly nonsensical ‘hood honor code’ qualified as self-defense. As you can see here, plenty of his co-ethnics genuinely believe this as well. They are utterly delusional. This entire case is a great example of how much time and money our society wastes offering delusional people an opportunity to present their utterly delusional defense. And because it is so absurd and such a waste, most jurors come into trial with a preconceived notion that the case must be a close one. Surely we can’t be dragging them away from work, wages, family, school, and all manner of obligations just to waste their time with bullshit. So it must be valid… right? They will grant the utterly delusional defense far more weight than they would under any other circumstance. And occasionally, if you don’t keep people like OP here off the jury, it will succeed. Despite the law having absolutely no concern whatsoever about this ghetto honor system, our justice system ends up ratifying it every now and then. And nobody ends up giving more free incorrect legal advice than someone that got off on a crime they shouldn’t have. This triggers a cascading effect of ratification of the delusional belief across the local criminal population. Thus, how you have so many people believing the delusion.

@HunnyBplus3 @KaelBen3b @jdmiles11 Can’t explain that to folks who believe, “who are you”, and “I’m not gonna fight you at a track meet” are provocative, and “touch me and see what happens” while calling everyone bitches and pussies is innocent bystander behavior.

@KaelBen3b @SavyPacker @jdmiles11 Oh stop it. Nothing described justifies being stabbed in the heart to death. You can’t bring a knife to a fist fight.

The provocation is holding something in your bag and calling everyone pussies and bitches, saying, “touch me and see what happens” over and over when you’re asked who you are, and then to leave. After you’ve signed a code of conduct to compete in sports and unequivocally know you’re not supposed to be in that tent since you don’t go to that school. Don’t even pretend that calling someone out like that is not provocation. I fought plenty in high school - and calling someone a pussy was definitely the precursor for many fights because that’s how you get someone to buck up.

@SavyPacker @jdmiles11 Words alone aren’t enough to provoke a person. Sitting there minding his own business until he was told to leave also isn’t provoking. The escalation was touching Karmelo.

And I thought Facebook was bad, X is like the place where the worst scourge of the earth exists.

@BMcFarland28 @KaelBen3b @jdmiles11 I’m not gonna lie, at that age, I would have done the same thing Austin did, but probably wouldn’t have been as gentle. I was easily provoked when someone called me a pussy. That meant game on when I was in school. @trenskee

@KaelBen3b @SavyPacker @jdmiles11 Putting hands on him to get him out of the tent doesn’t mean he “wanted to fight”. Quit spinning the facts to make it something you want to hear.

Austin didn’t want to fight, he even said, corroborated by multiple testifying witnesses, “I’m not gonna fight you at a track meet, dude”. Anthony was continuing escalation, with his hands on something in his back pack, calling everyone bitches and pussies, saying “move me, touch me and see what happens”. Taunting and provoking. Eyewitness testimony isn’t perfect, and these are young kids who witnessed a traumatizing event. As long as other witnesses are corroborating the story, and it’s all generally the same story, just from their own perception and traumatized memories.

@SavyPacker @jdmiles11 There are big contradictions in that testimony. 1) he said before he didn’t know Karmelo, then he said they were talking, then he said it was weird Karmelo was in the tent. 2) he said Austin didn’t want to fight, but Austin got up and put hands on first.

@queenie4rmnola You owe me reparations for having to read this.

America owes Black people reparations

@jdmiles11 Has the medical examiner testified today?

It's likely that the prosecution in the Karmelo Anthony murder trial will rest its case at the end of today's testimony. bit.ly/4eoFIMU

@iFightForKids Okay, these people are retarded. “Who are you?” and “I’m not going to fight you at a track meet, dude.” is now verbally assault, but Anthony calling everyone under the tent bitches and pussies isn’t, daring them to move him, provoking them to touch him 🤦🏼‍♀️

"Verbal assault?" Omfg. Just 2 different realities.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but hopping over from Facebook where I received racial slurs and threats of bodily harm.. because it was a “cleat sharpener”. Maybe some of these others are rage baiting racists, but there’s a large population of Anthony supporters on Fb with that narrative.

@OurOwnNation Only white boys who think they’re oppressed remember that. Everyone else just kept scrolling because it’s obviously a troll and too insignificant to give any energy to. But yet, here you are, making up stories for rage bait. Cool story “dude”

Do you remember when blacks on here claimed Karmelo Anthony didn’t have a knife, he just had a “Cleat Sharpener” and then turns out they were just lying and making shit up like they always do?