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@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Okay, that’s actually the perfect example. Quick: what are you arguing with that statement? What’s the point of view you’re trying to convey?

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo the equivalent would be saying that "dogs are part of the canis genus and generally more social than cats are part of the felis genus and generally more independent" is single fact, my double digit I.Q friend. Because I just didn't say "A and B are different"

I've ardently defended Erika Kirk from the ostensibly serious podcasters & media stars defaming her and baselessly implicating her in crimes. But my feelings about the comedian Druski's mockery of Erika Kirk are more complex. For years, I, and many others on the Right, defended edgy and wildly offensive comedy, like mocking trans people and even joking about horrible things like domestic violence, the Holocaust, and AIDS. How can anyone on the Right really argue, in that context, that a comedian mocking a widow is somehow beyond the pale... without being totally hypocritical?

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo If I tell you that a dog and a cat are different, the fact that they’re different is a singular fact, and I made a singular statement. It doesn’t become two just because I’m comparing two things…

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo You don't even know how to count, I described the two different things, so it wasn't a singular fact under any definition, again, you're incapable of understanding basic sentences. Also, an opposing pov is still a pov. Somehow you think you need to state an original subject.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo That’s the definition that you shared. And yet you still insist you made an argument. If you can’t understand this, that’s okay, I’m just trying to help you out. I said it in good faith, and your response was still to continuously insult me. I’m done trying to teach you. Bye.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Definition: a coherent series of statements or facts that support a point of view. Your comment was neither a series (it was a singular fact, that two things are different), and it never established a point of view. Worse, you thought the fact itself was a point of view.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Hey look, you wrote something cohesive again. A bit repetitive, but you’ll iron those quirks out at school, I’m sure. Anyway, it’s been fun. Have a good life 👍🏼

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo You have a double digit I.Q and can't read basic definitions, lol. It's definitely a combination of mental rtardation and you being amused by complex syntax, but it's okay. You don't have the mental capacity to understand you're low I.Q.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Mmm no, that’s not it. It’s that most of your responses have been somewhat incoherent, while you’ve struggled to understand basic argumentative concepts. But there’s nothing more difficult in this world than convince an idiot that he’s wrong so… good job buddy! Well done!

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo I don't agree with it, but it's an actual cohesive rebuttal. That statement demonstrated actual knowledge of argumentative principles, which throughout the discussion you've shown no evidence of having a grasp on.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Literally just reiterated my argument in a couple sentence and you don't see how agreeing with it at this point essentially confirms you're an actual medical rtard?

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Oh I did realise it was an insult, but it was still legitimately the only logically cohesive thing you've said during the discussion.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo I like how you can accept how rtarded your arguments are when you don't realize I'm poking fun of you, lol.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo That's the first cohesive thing you've said during this discussion. My guess is you used AI to come up with that retort 😂

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Yeah, true, maybe at school they'll teach me that making statements to dispel the previously stated notion that two thing exist in the same moral realm is in fact an argument. Or maybe that analogies require the comparison to be the 2 things' operative element. One can dream. 😀

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo And that's one of the greatest examples of projection I've ever seen. Good luck, man. Go to school, please.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo perhaps one of the worse attempt at an analogy I have ever seen, it's almost impressive how rtarded you are. Now I know for fact you're not trolling. You're an actual medical rtard.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo MLK: "Black people should have the same voting rights as white people" You: "BlaCk pEOple aNd WHitE PeopLe ArE diFFerEnT, ThaT's My GooD ArgUmeNT, i HaVe HiGH iQ, cOMpaRe And cOnTraST lol 🤡"

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Comparing and contrasting is one of the most basic forms of argumentation, you're actually insane. It just gets worse and worse.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Brother, if you think that saying two things that are different are, in fact, different is a "good" or "valid" argument, then your IQ is in the single digits. No college professor would ever accept that as a valid argument, which you'd know if you'd gone to college.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo No it's not you fucking monkey, something being self evident merely reinforces the validity of my argument. I don't argue from uncertainty because I don't a have a double digit I.Q like you. The fact that I can explain basic ideas to the point you have to agree with me is good.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo You're the prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Go back to school.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo nigga, stop being rtarded and pretending you understand logic sequences and statements. You've shown to be incapable of reading basic definitions.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Saying "two things are different" is little more than a redundant statement, which on its own does not support any point of view. That's why it isn't an argument, hermano. Take a debate course or something, because you're clearly having trouble understanding these concepts.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo For future reference, the original argument wasn't "they're hypocritical". The argument was that you can't pick or choose what one can make fun of and what one can't. Your counter, which you only just stated, is that "severity" determines what you can or can't make fun of.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo You're the one who doesn't know the difference between a claim, a statement, a fact, and an argument haha. You also clearly don't know what "moving the goalposts" is. I thought it may have been a language barrier, but you're just as clueless in Spanish. Good luck.

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Because a point of view is subjective. A fact is objective. Please just answer the following question: Do you believe it’s okay to make fun of anything, or should there be limitations, and why?

@SebMadeInChina @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo I legit fail to understand how you are so bad at understanding simple definition of common words, I hope you're trolling. How in the world is "that's false" not a point of view under any definition?

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo Puedes utilizar declaraciones para defender tu punto de vista, pero nada más lo has utilizado para descalificar el punto de vista de otro. Te he pedido ya varias veces que expliques tu punto de vista sobre el tema. Si no lo quieres hacer, está bien.

@upper_pp @SpookieMusk @doodamos @brad_polumbo "Falso" no es un punto de vista, es una declaración. Decir un hecho no es un argumento. Nadie en este planeta está en desacuerdo con que dos cosas diferentes son diferentes. Eso no es algo que tienes que defender. Un argumento es un punto de vista que puedes defender.

@SpookieMusk @upper_pp @doodamos @brad_polumbo Well he attempted to, by implying that your argument included a false equivalence. I just want him to actually provide an argument, as opposed to continuously insisting that his comment qualifies as one. Though at this point, I don't think he will.

@SebMadeInChina @upper_pp @doodamos @brad_polumbo To be fair, he didn't show any flaw in my argument. He said the two things are different. Yes, of course they are different. That in no way shows a flaw in the argument that if it's okay to mock one it's okay to mock the other too.