@Anthonymannis@GSTH481@Ryoshuist Yes, that's what I'm saying. A color fixer with ego was the strongest fixer of all time, and Vergilius is a color fixer with ego...
@GSTH481@Ryoshuist 1. We have no way of knowing how far apart her fight with the claws and Garion was.
2. Won??? I mean she did end up taking out Garion but not before dying. And that was all because Garion was very cocky, Kali was on her knees earlier in the fight. Very Pyrrhic victory.
@GSTH481@Anthonymannis@Ryoshuist But my instinct tells me it’s at least much closer than it was last time. And if Vergilius with ego can match Iori, who is a very VERY strong color fixer I don’t see how it’s implausible that he can be considered one of the strongest.
@GSTH481@Anthonymannis@Ryoshuist Vergilius was focusing on defending the kids thst fight but even still, Iori is incredibly experienced and strong. Being “one of the strongest” doesn’t mean you can’t lose fights when you have an opponent like Iori. And no I don’t know how the fight would turn out if Verg had ego
@GSTH481@Ryoshuist The key pages we have in the library aren’t one to one with the original user. They have less health and often less speed dice. And Gebura is still very obviously weaker than Kali was even with her key page considering how quickly she is overwhelmed in the final fight.
@Sendmebread@Ryoshuist Also a librarian who equipped a book of a Color level does make for a Color level opponent, not to mention the light of library buffs and ego and borrowed powers from Abnormalities.
@GSTH481@Ryoshuist We know specifically though that it was two claws, and I’d say Vergilius with Ego could probably match a claw in combat or possibly surpass one. You should also consider that even though shin doesn’t determine everything Kali would still be fighting without it in this scenario.
@Sendmebread@Ryoshuist 2-3 Claws, All levels of Abnormalities ranged from Zayin to Aleph without any Qliphoth Deterrence including Nothing There and possibly more Aleph and an arbiter, next question.
@Anthonymannis@GSTH481@Ryoshuist I respect the agenda but it's not like Kali is going to just mog him. Vergilius is still one of the strongest fixers of all time.
@GSTH481@Ryoshuist What? Are you using the librarians as an example of an opponent on or similar level to Vergilius? Because there's no way a single assistant librarian is on the level of a color fixer with Ego, I don't know how you figure that.
@SwagManswatter@Saimon9a@Yurodivy1312 Never directly says high level unless it's somewhere else but I don't remember any other conversation about it besides here. Shin is likely so powerful because when given to users who already have good augmentations it gives people far more endurance.
@Sendmebread@Saimon9a@Yurodivy1312 Shin is just that powerful, it's directly stated to be comparable to high level enhancements
If some random backstreets rat had the fortitude to become a Monk of shin then yeah I could see them blowing the head off of some random grade 2 nobody