Bahr Umar

@catyushaa @aymanvro where in the authentic sunnah and qur'an and ijma that says Allah has a size you moron🤣 and a jigsaw puzzle.

@ShafiEastAsian @aymanvro We really aren't. We accept what Allah has described Himself with and don't use foreign doctrines to interpret what was sent in a very clear language.

This Salafi anthropomorphist actually admitted that a God assembled like a child's jigsaw puzzle is more logical than an Infinite Being who transcends the petty limitations of time and space. He’s traded theology for a toy box.

@catyushaa @aymanvro well, your cult are trying to grasp Allah with sensory experience, thus failed and became a worshipper of a jigsaw puzzle🤣.

@ShafiEastAsian @aymanvro You began to fail once you tried to fathom something beyond human capability. Accept it at face value and move on.

@aymanvro limitation of space means your God has bounded by space meaning the other entity adjacent to him, anyways you haven't proof that extramental existence neccessitate location.

@ShafiEastAsian @ShafiEastAsian what does it mean for Allah to 'transcend the petty limitations of space and time' ? Just be direct and say you believe in a static God that has no extramental existence

@aymanvro 🤣4D? is beyond LWH 3D ENTITY, therefore your god is a 4D anyways Hadd is just a conceptual distinction between the creation and Allah. meaning he can't be inside the creation, its just a denial of hulul, nothing else. plus the book is interpolated.

@ShafiEastAsian 😭What are you even talking about. Anyways, the entailment of affirming hadd for Allah is spatial extension so go on and call Imam Ahmad a mujassim.

Example of A Taymi who believe Allah has a size:

@abolore12345 @aymanvro yuppo

@abolore12345 @aymanvro what they mean by immeasurable, is that we haven't seen his kayfiyya therefore we can't measure him.

@loves_coding pure mujassim

@ShafiEastAsian Typical. Show short clips and take out of context. He’s refuting your boy. Look at what your boy says and you should understand IT words. Also, pay attention to things like و إن كان which is in reply to what your boy said. No clear affirmation of spatially or Allah have parts

Ibn Taymiyya was truly a mujassim -believed Allah has size -believed there's a creation inside god -believed Allah is spatially quantifiable -believed Allah consists of inseparable composite parts. in other words, he believes in a jigsaw god. No one will ever change my mind.

@kurotsuchiiiiii @Laptusk The arabic one please. and put all the narrators.

@ShafiEastAsian @Laptusk Here

@abolore12345 @loves_coding BarakaaAllah feek Mawlana

@ShafiEastAsian @loves_coding Here, he affirmed that Allah is composed of inseparable parts Check the last line of the 2nd scan

@aymanvro Meaning Your God is 4D designed by Ibn Taymiyya. ironically, your god is the one who doesn't exist, he only exist in your imagination where you used your mind to solve the puzzle of a jigsaw god🤣. As Imam Razi said, The Mujassima are ultimately worshipping nothing.

@ShafiEastAsian Yes my God doesn't only exist in the mind like yours. Allah having a hadd (as the salaf mention) and nihayah and being ba'inun min khalqihi (separate from creation) would entail Allah having a magnitude/size. This doesn't then mean Allah has LWH, as IT explicitly rejects this.

@loves_coding You can’t have 'Right sides' and 'Higher parts' without affirming a spatial hierarchy. Pick a struggle, is IT an anthropomorphist with a 'top' and 'bottom,' or are you finally admitting you're a Mu’tazili? 2/2

@loves_coding Wait, so now Uluww is just a metaphor for 'Greatness' and not direction? 😂 Typical. You spent years crying about 'deviants' doing Ta’wil, but the second IT says 'some of Him is higher than others' (منه ما هو أعلى من غيره), you turn into a poet. 1/2

@loves_coding why don't you read the athar he rejected? the "greater" he's talking about was the essence of the throne, basically God fills the space on the throne hence he would be greater than it. Stop sugarcoating Ibn Taymiyya, your likes are academically dishonest.

@ShafiEastAsian You fool. A question for you. Is the throne greater than Allah? If your answer is “no”, does that mean you affirmed attribute of size for Allah? Think about it

@justtobrowse95 @loves_coding I don't takfir over Ibn Taymiyya despite this belief, I go with what the majority of ulama have said about him, He's still a scholar to me but on these specific issues, He made a major error, and May Allah forgive his mistakes.

@ShafiEastAsian @loves_coding The Asharis have no problem with takfir? It’s usually put on “wahhabis” but truly the people who takfir more are Asharis

@justtobrowse95 @loves_coding i'm talking about the contemporary Salafi taymi scholar Hussam al-Humaydah. As for their view of the sifat, Ibn Taymiyya was faraway from the creed of the Salaf, no one has ever asserted on the issue of tasalsul and the qidam naw wa ahad al-afrad of the sifat like IT.

@ShafiEastAsian @loves_coding Tell me how ibn Abd Al Hadi’s view differed from the teacher of Bukhari, AbdAllah Ibn Zubayr Al Humaydi. Their views regarding siffat are identical. Affirm without tashbih or resorting to Kalaam

@muhamidali3 even al-Albani your very own muhaddith criticize Ibn Taymiyya on these specific issue I mentioned

@ShafiEastAsian Pretty sure I stated I didn’t read it lol. Tryna get a fake gotcha. Difference is I don’t post ‘facts’ about ghazalis takes with no sources like you do with ibn taymiyyah , you imbecile. “Allah is everywhere” looking fool.

@muhamidali3 translate that part for me, go ahead.

@muhamidali3 translate that for me go ahead. You thought I was lying?