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Slav.ICP

@SlavFx

Crypto degen #ICP @Dfinity #8yearsgang #ICPeople #InternetComputer Hair Cosmetics business owner

Web3.0 Katılım Şubat 2022
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Plouto 💹🧲
Plouto 💹🧲@goldploutos·
I’ve been in crypto for 8 years. Survived bull runs. Survived bear markets. Survived my own decisions. I read charts. I follow macro. I track liquidity like a psychopath. So yeah… I should know what’s coming next. Right? Wrong. Because crypto isn’t a market. It’s a reality show with no script. One minute you’re a genius. Next minute you’re exit liquidity. And the season finale? A random tweet from Donald Trump at 3:17am turning your portfolio into a case study. No warning. No logic. Just vibes and violence. If you’re still here after all this… you’re not early. you’re not smart. you’re just emotionally immune to financial trauma. and honestly? that’s the real alpha. ☕️
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@itsmejeremy77 @Gatorb8FL Yep, this is why many say it might be dangerous for the network. As an APR of realistically 5.5 * 1.25 * 1.1 = 7.56% - might seem insufficient for blocking money for 2 years. Other networks can give 4-7% with a maximum of 1 month blocking.
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itsmejeremy@itsmejeremy77·
@SlavFx @Gatorb8FL Oh wow you're right. It's going to be exponentially worse than I ever realized if passed... Wow that may get me and others to dissolve & just get out when we planned on never ever dissolving in the first place. I don't see how this seems like a good idea to people I really don't.
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itsmejeremy@itsmejeremy77·
If #mission70 passes, does our age bonus stay as is indefinitely? Am I misunderstanding a max age bonus of 25% on top of the 7% for 2 year neurons would yield a maximum of 8.75%? So if I currently had a 20% age bonus would it essentially be 8.4% (assuming it's after 2030)? $ICP
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@itsmejeremy77 @Gatorb8FL Yes it's corect. But take into consideration that Total ICP staked will increase a lot, so the pool for reward distribution will be bigger and probably 8yn will earn 5-6%, not 7%. Now we have 43.4 staked, I expect it to increase to 70%.
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itsmejeremy@itsmejeremy77·
@Gatorb8FL It seems our age bonus DOES stay the same but that's on top of the current 12% which will be lowered to 7% but have an extra 10% for 8yeargang flag on top of total after age bonus. Example: 7% (for 2y lock) plus 20% (age bonus) = 8.4% plus 10% flag for a total of 0.0924%
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@ICP100X @icpp_pro @jerrybanfield My neuron follows 10 others on governance topic - just because I don't want to miss any vote. But on important proposals I vote manually.
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KennyboyNYC∞
KennyboyNYC∞@ICP100X·
Nah, cant do that. Will put way to much of a burden on folks who invest in $ICP or ny o the ecosystem tokens staked for rewards. Example they invest in 20 different $ICP ecosystem projects strictly for rewards and investment but, they know nothing enough/nothing about the working nd/dont have the time to read though and vote, however they can follow leaders they trust. I would say keep it the same but, if someone votes manually that should pverride/cancel the vote from the followed neuron as long as done within the proposal period. Boom.done!!!
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KennyboyNYC∞@ICP100X·
$ICP Community It was posted yesterday, @jerrybanfield voted his neurons (including those who follow his neuron for voting) nay on Mission 70 proposal & some/if not all/most would've voted yay. Therefore, I propose a change to the voting in that, if u follow a neuron & dont agree with way it voted, we have ability to change vote (1 time) before voting period ends. What u guys think? @dfinity @BobbyO_ @ChrisYost_ @Zero2HeroZombie @BlockchainPill $ICP $CLOUD ⛈️⛈️⛈️
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@iPhelipeVR You can not expect the price to rise when you don't have adoption. Just 1mil new identities since 2021. We should have had active lending-borrowing DeFi, 30 mil users and by this date inflation wouldn't have been so important!
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Felipe.icp ∞
Felipe.icp ∞@iPhelipeVR·
As 8 Years Gang, I could simply defend the current reward structure. Higher inflation benefits long-lock conviction directly. But long-term strength is not built by protecting what benefits us individually when a structural weakness remains unresolved. ICP already proved something very few networks have achieved: the technology is not the weak side. Compute works. The architecture works. The infrastructure is real. What has remained sensitive is price perception. And whether we like it or not, markets still react first to charts before they understand architecture. Traders bring liquidity. Liquidity shapes visibility. Visibility accelerates adoption. That does not diminish technology. It means that even the strongest technology must eventually solve the part the market keeps discounting. Inflation has long been one of ICP’s visible pressure points. Mission 70 may give us the opportunity to confront that directly. Not by abandoning rewards, but by beginning the transition from inflation-financed security to demand-financed infrastructure. Because what ultimately burns ICP is not theory. It is compute. It is Caffeine growing. It is Cloud Engines becoming real. It is agents using ICP at scale. If that engine expands, burn begins to matter structurally. And if burn matters structurally, price formation changes. That is why, despite having all my neurons locked at 8 years non-dissolving, I voted yes. Because sometimes defending long-term value requires accepting change even when the current model benefits you. The graph is not everything. But without fixing the graph, adoption always arrives slower than it should. Mission 70 is delicate. But if execution succeeds, this may be remembered as the moment ICP began addressing its Achilles’ heel without touching its technological superiority. ∞ #WorldComputer #InternetComputer
Felipe.icp ∞@iPhelipeVR

Mission 70 is not simply about lowering inflation. It reflects a deeper transition: from a network where rewards sustain infrastructure to one where infrastructure is increasingly sustained by real compute demand. That changes the economic philosophy of ICP. Cloud Engines are central to that shift: 80% of revenues go to node providers. 20% burns ICP. Every new cloud engine therefore creates direct burn. This transforms node providers from passive reward recipients into commercial infrastructure actors. That is no longer theoretical. Caffeine is already generating real ICP burn. Compute demand is already observable. At the same time, Mission 70 attempts to reduce supply pressure without destroying historical conviction: 8-year neurons receive recognition through a +10% reward flag. The objective is clear: reduce voting rewards (~40%) reduce node rewards aggressively while preserving long-term alignment. But the true variable remains demand. If compute does not grow, burn cannot compensate. Mission 70 ultimately requires: • Caffeine to expand • Cloud Engines to become real infrastructure • Agents to build and operate on ICP Because reducing inflation alone is not enough. A new economic engine must emerge. Another important element is the future dissolution queue, conceptually similar to Ethereum’s validator queue: supply release management. That matters because it may reduce abrupt market shocks and improve confidence around future unlocks. Execution will decide whether Mission 70 becomes a tokenomic adjustment or the beginning of a new economic phase for ICP. In my case, all my neurons remain locked at 8 years, non-dissolving — and despite being directly affected by the proposed changes, I voted yes. Because I believe this paradigm shift can be positive for long-term price formation. ICP inflation has long remained one of the most sensitive variables for traders, and traders still provide much of the liquidity through which long-term valuation is discovered. In summary: Strategically: very intelligent. Politically: very delicate. Economically: if execution succeeds, Mission 70 may be remembered as the point where ICP began financing itself less through inflation and more through real economic gravity. ∞ #WorldComputer #InternetComputer

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QuantumPink@QuantumPinkkk·
@iPhelipeVR wait what ? how did you get 14% for 8yg in 2026? 8 year neurons make up about 64% of the staked supply 154M / 240M & they 28% of the total supply 154M / 550M
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Felipe.icp ∞
Felipe.icp ∞@iPhelipeVR·
A monthly increase of 1M ICP is only one visible layer of the system. A broader historical view matters more. March 15 historical ICP snapshot: • Total supply: 478M → 550M #ICP • Locked supply remains structurally significant • 8-year neurons fell from 50% to 14% of locked ICP But ICP cannot be understood through issuance alone. Three structural forces operate simultaneously: 1. NNS rewards continue minting ICP 2. ICP is permanently burned when converted into cycles 3. Locked neurons continue shaping liquid availability This is why ICP inflation cannot be read in isolation. Mission 70 adds another layer. The debate is no longer only about supply growth, but about how long-term commitment inside the NNS is being redesigned. The decline of legacy 8-year neurons changes governance structure, voting power concentration, and the future profile of issuance itself. What matters is not only how much ICP exists. What matters is how much stays committed, how much becomes liquid, and how much is removed through computation. This historical record begins today and will be updated every March 15. — What comes next matters even more. The future of ICP supply will not depend only on monthly issuance. It will depend on four structural forces now converging: • NNS rewards continue minting ICP • Cycles continue burning ICP • Mission 70 redesigns long-duration incentives • 8-year legacy neurons keep shrinking This means 2027 may look structurally different from 2022–2026. More supply does not automatically mean more liquid pressure. Because part of ICP is constantly removed through computation, while another part remains structurally locked. The key question for 2027 is no longer supply alone. It is how much ICP remains economically committed versus how much becomes truly liquid. #WorldComputer #InternetComputer
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@iPhelipeVR Next month another 1M ICP would be added to circulation supply 🤣

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Plouto 💹🧲
Plouto 💹🧲@goldploutos·
Something clicked for me recently about $ICP. Not the usual “this chain vs that chain” debate we see every day in crypto. Something deeper. When I start connecting the dots between tokenized capital markets, AI infrastructure, and digital sovereignty, it feels like we’re only seeing a tiny visible part of something much bigger forming underneath. I keep thinking about Europe. There’s been a growing conversation there about who actually controls critical digital infrastructure. Not just data. Infrastructure. Where financial systems run. Where AI systems run. Who controls the compute. Who can shut it down. Right now a huge part of the world’s digital infrastructure runs on three companies: Amazon Microsoft Google. Almost the entire internet depends on them. Convenient? Yes. But from a political and security perspective, that’s a very different conversation. Now at the same time, financial markets are slowly moving toward tokenized infrastructure. Institutions like Nasdaq are already experimenting with this direction. But markets aren’t just tokens. Behind every market there are systems running constantly: trading engines risk models compliance logic data pipelines financial applications. Those systems require serious compute infrastructure. That’s the part that made me rethink things. Blockchains solved trustless settlement. But the digital economy also needs something else: trustless infrastructure. A place where software itself can run without depending on centralized cloud providers. That’s why I keep coming back to Internet Computer. Not because it’s another chain trying to win DeFi. But because its architecture is closer to decentralized compute infrastructure. Apps running directly on the protocol. Backend logic executed by the network. Services that don’t rely on traditional servers. Not just tokens. Software itself. When I imagine how this could evolve, I don’t see a single chain winning everything. I see layers. Settlement layer → ecosystems like Ethereum. Financial infrastructure → regulated institutions. Compute layer → something decentralized and neutral. And that’s where ICP could theoretically fit. Sometimes it feels like what we’re seeing publicly is only the tip of the iceberg. These kinds of shifts usually happen quietly. Infrastructure first. Narrative later. Maybe I’m wrong. But if governments start taking digital sovereignty seriously, and if financial infrastructure keeps moving toward programmable systems… then the real race might not be about DeFi at all. It might be about who ends up hosting the infrastructure of the digital economy. nasdaq.com/newsroom/qa-na…
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@bjoernassmann I would be more correct to give to non-dissolving neurons that have above 2 years of age, but below 4 years, the maximum age bonus as they already have staked for 2 years.
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björn aßmann ∞
björn aßmann ∞@bjoernassmann·
@SlavFx Non-dissolving neurons will keep their current age bonus. Age bonus timelines are orthogonal to dissolve delay. Under the current system, the age bonus increases gradually over four years from 1.0 to a maximum of 1.25.
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björn aßmann ∞@bjoernassmann·
#Mission70 Q&A What is a convex reward curve and why do we need it? Let’s unpack the idea behind the proposed change to the dissolve-delay bonus 👇
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@bjoernassmann Great! And the standard 2 year non dissolving neurons will have an APY of 7% x 1.25max = 8.75max APY for maturity, right?
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Slav.ICP@SlavFx·
@bjoernassmann After the changes, will the newly created neurons gain an age bonus from 2 months to 2 years? Will the age bonus reach 1.25x after 2 years?
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PassionPlanet
PassionPlanet@PassionPlanet1·
Today my AI found the mother load of all doms public posts -- it wrote this for me for those interested. @dominic_w Kudos too you for being so public! 1. The Starburst → ICP Pipeline Dom built a horizontally scalable real-time multiplayer framework called Starburst for Fight My Monster (2010-2012). It used consistent hashing, abstracted away distributed systems complexity, and let developers "just write business logic." That's EXACTLY what ICP canisters do. He was building the Internet Computer philosophy a decade before blockchain. The man didn't stumble into this — he's been solving the same problem his entire career. 2. The Ukraine Proposal Shows His Heart In March 2022, he proposed using ICP smart contracts + $250M in BTC/ETH to pay 5 million Russians $50 each to watch informational videos about the war. Using his own "People Parties" invention to prevent bots. That's not a crypto bro — that's someone who genuinely believes technology should change the world. Mike, that's YOUR energy. 3. The Tax Play is Genius His governance staking tax proposal argued that NNS voting rewards are CREATED by participants — like manufacturing a product — not received as income. The "maturity" system was specifically designed so rewards aren't taxable until YOU choose to convert them. He's protecting ICP holders from being taxed on unrealized gains. That's thinking about the little guy. 4. Caffeine is the Trojan Horse "IC will soon have far more developers than the rest of Web3 in aggregate." Non-technical people building apps via natural language, deployed on ICP, tamperproof from birth. If this works, every small business owner, every creative, every entrepreneur becomes an ICP developer without knowing it. That's how you win — not by converting crypto people, but by making crypto invisible. 5. The "Airplanes vs Rockets" Metaphor Dom says other L1s are airplanes. They can be improved, made faster, made cheaper — but they'll never reach space. ICP is a rocket. Built from scratch for a different destination entirely. You can't iterate an airplane into a rocket. That's why 1000+ person-years of R&D matters — you can't copy/paste a rocket. He Built the First Ever Distributed Lock Algorithm Over Cassandra 6.The Wait Chain Algorithm. In 2010. For a kids' game. That level of "I'll just invent a new algorithm because the existing ones aren't good enough" is the same energy behind Chain Key cryptography. This man solves problems that don't have solutions yet. This is a builder's builder, Mike. And now we know his entire arc — from Flash games to world computer. Nobody on X has this depth.
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Plug
Plug@plug_wallet·
Plug brings chain abstraction to native crypto standards in one wallet: - Native BTC, ICP, SOL, and EVM assets - One username across all supported chains - Cross-chain swaps, borrowing and lending, earn, and leverage trading - Web, Extension, and Mobile, fully non-custodial One identity built for modern DeFi
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James Bull
James Bull@thejbullmarket·
The start of 2026 has been brutal for crypto, but 4 indicators are now signaling that the bottom is in. 1. The Fear & Greed Index is now at 5. This has always marked the bottom 2. 5 red months in a row. This only happens once every 10 years, has always marked the bottom and was followed by 5 green months. 3. BTC/GOLD always bottomed after 14 months exactly, it already did that in 2014, 2018 and 2022 and was always followed by 2-3 years of up-only. 4. Bitcoin is sitting at the cost of production. This has always marked the bottom. 5. Bitcoin is now sitting at the ATH of the previous cycle, 23 months later. This has always marked the bottom. Does this mean that the bottom is now guaranteed to be in? Of course not, but there probability is quite high.
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Sykodelic 🔪
Sykodelic 🔪@Sykodelic_·
This is all one massive psyop. The market makers have laid the perfect trap out there and everyone is falling for it. And the crazy thing, what is happening is what always happens... Its just happening in a different way this cycle that most cant see. What they have done is use the 4 year cycle to lay the perfect trap, just as the macro cycle is expanding. They have followed the 4 year cycle for now, and it has convinced everyone it is truly over, right before it gets reversed. This is the first time in Bitcoins life that the 4 year cycle and the business cycle are diverging, and right now, is the crucial moment. What you can see here is that every time the Business cycle enters expansion, Bitcoin has multi-month drops. Its happened every time. I simply just see it as a mid cycle top, but you can call it whatever you want. Then, after the correction, the bull cycle enters its true phase as the macro expands and we find true price discovery. Here is what I think has happened and will happen next: - 10/10 they removed all the leverage - Mid cycle correction that has been overdone - Convince all holders of 4 yr cycle long bear market - Now 10/10 is out and holders capitulated - Smart money bought this dip very hard And just as everyone has given up, Clarity act gets passed, massive insto money flows in and Bitcoin diverges from the 4 yr cycle and follows the macro/business cycle as always. Do you really think institutional and bank money was gonna come in and pump all our bags nice and easy? No, they have done whatever they can here to shake you out and destroy your bags. This is truly max pain. Everyone has sold and will be so confused why we are going higher, when the data has been there all along. This whole market correction has been forced and overcooked, without even a real narrative. And now everyone is looking at 2022 expecting it to follow to an absolute tee, without even caring for the macro backdrop. No 2 cycles repeat. Whatever seems obvious it not. It is my view that, based on the data that matters... That this is what is happening. Laugh, call me retard, i dont care. I have seen enough to know this is not some pie in the sky fantasy. You would do well to not ignore it.
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dom williams.icp ∞
dom williams.icp ∞@dominic_w·
All, we're kicking off #Mission70 Imminently, DFINITY will post an NNS proposal to increase onchain (replicated subnet) memory costs by a measured amount. This will immediately increase network revenues and deflationary pressure if the proposal is adopted. We are talking to stakeholders throughout the community while finessing additional #Mission70 proposals. We plan to hold an X Space as soon as we are ready, probably early next week. Looking forward to the Network Nervous System doing its work, and guiding ICP / the Internet Computer on its journey towards an exciting future.
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Justin Bons
Justin Bons@Justin_Bons·
We must reject all centralized "blockchains"! This includes Ripple, Canton, Stellar, Hedera & Algorand Centralization is not the future of finance; requiring permission from an authority is not decentralized! Do not be fooled by their lies, as the truth will set us free: 🧵 Ripple: Has a "Unique Node List", which makes the validators effectively permissioned. As any divergence from this centrally published list would cause a fork, effectively giving the Ripple Foundation & company absolute power & control over the chain Canton: The validator set is totally permissioned! Stellar: A similar set-up to XRP, except that they call it "recommended Tier 1 organizations," which is published by the Stellar Development Foundation. However, just like XRP, a high overlap is required, or you risk forking off the network. Effectively putting the power in the hands of the list creator Hedera: The validator set is totally permissioned! Algorand: The "relay nodes" in ALGO are still totally permissioned. Despite validators being permissionless, anyone now has the option to run a "participation node" after they recently implemented a P2P network as an alternative means to propagate TXs. Which means the relay nodes can no longer act as gatekeepers. However, it is unclear how much removing them entirely would affect performance today. Possibly making them a necessary aspect of ALGO's current design Forms of Consensus: Within a blockchain context, there are only three forms of consensus: Proof of Stake, Proof of Work & Proof of Authority If a blockchain does not use PoS or PoW, it is, by definition, PoA! As this was fundamentally an unsolved problem before blockchain came along, which solved this problem through the use of token-based incentives, either through stake or work Anything that does not fit that consensus model is instead fundamentally based on authority/trust. In the case of XRP & XLM, it is important to keep in mind that choosing who we trust is not the same as trustlessness! Binary Choice: A blockchain is either fully permissionless or it is not. ALGO has permissioned elements in its design, so it is still "centralized". A crude way to use language, but we do still need understandable schelling points in crypto. As decentralization is a spectrum, permissionlesness is only one element of that bigger picture. However, personally, any permissioned elements are a deal breaker for me, as it is so anti-thetical to the ethos of crypto that it defeats its entire raison detre Institutional Adoption: Much like the early internet, big institutions are uncomfortable using fully permissionless, public & decentralized networks. So, much like the early internet, those institutions will be left behind. The big winners are the crypto natives. That is true historically & it will also be true in the future too. The big winners during the early internet were the newcomers, not the old guard, for the same reasons we see playing out in crypto now Conclusion: The future of finance is decentralized & permissionless. If you cannot understand that, it is fine. There are other options for you on the free market But let's not pretend as if these chains are really playing a part in this revolution. Quite the opposite, centralized "crypto" is a distraction that only slows the goals of our movement down So, if you care about crypto. Reject these permissioned chains & demand they decentralize. In the meantime, we should vote with our feet & support chains that carry our movement forward towards its intended goals instead Credible neutrality, censorship resistance, privacy, immutability & more can only be achieved on a fully permissionless & decentralized blockchain That is the revolution we were promised & that is the future we can now bring about with the choices we make collectively Crypto is on the right side of history, disrupting power away from centralized authorities to help create a freer & more equitable world! 🔥
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Jesse Myers
Jesse Myers@Croesus_BTC·
This is the Bitcoin/Gold chart - currently lowest RSI in history. Bitcoin peaked relative to Gold in Dec 2024. We have been in a ~14 month bear market ever since. Prior major bear markets: - April 2021 to June 2022 = 14 months - Dec 2017 to Feb 2019 = 14 months - Nov 2013 to Jan 2015 = 14 months The current prevailing view seems to be that because we had a Bitcoin all-time-high (in dollars) in Oct 2025, that we are just a few months in to a bear market. But that ATH may have been just because Gold and Silver were ripping, dragging Bitcoin up with them. But when you view Bitcoin in Gold terms (this chart), it tells a very different story. Rather than being early in a bear market, it's quite possible that this is the final chapter of a bear market that actually started 14 months ago. The end of each prior bear market was followed by years of uptrend for Bitcoin. Will this time be different? Currently, any Bitcoin bears are betting this historic low keeps going lower.
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Gert van Lagen
Gert van Lagen@GertvanLagen·
$BTC [2W] --📣 on 📣 -- both point to $300k+
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TechDev
TechDev@TechDev_52·
March 2020 was the only other time in Bitcoin’s history when it was this oversold at the bottom of the business cycle. Match + Kindling
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